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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Emma Barnett and Gillian Keegan.

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heldinadream · 16/05/2024 08:46

Today prog R4 now - Emma holding GK to account!
16/05/24 8.45 been going on about 10 minutes really worth listening to!

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heldinadream · 16/05/2024 08:55

@Bankholidayhelp that's pretty much what I think. We must both have leapt onto mumsnet in the same spirit of hoorah!
I'll go look for your thread.

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Version4needsabitofwork · 16/05/2024 08:55

Pretty shocking that a minister admitted that she had no idea about the issues in 2020. We’ve been taking about it here for YEARS.

I thought it was a great piece - EB holding her feet to the fire and GK answering frankly and holding her own. Good on them both. Let’s get some light on this subject FFS, it’s 2024 and so much damage has already been done.

Bankholidayhelp · 16/05/2024 08:54

sashagabadon · 16/05/2024 08:51

But why a battle? Everyone who has given this 5 mins thought would agree with minister. It doesn’t need to be a battle and it puts listeners off imo.

I don't think this is the case. 'Everyone' most definitely doesn't agree with the Minister.

heldinadream · 16/05/2024 08:53

sashagabadon · 16/05/2024 08:49

Porn bit better but why couldn’t the gender bit have been like that. It was unnecessarily argumentative

I personally think people need to hear the arguments after all the years of pussy-footing around and TWAW, but I take your point it could have been calmer. But I think that's news style isn't it and they have to cram it in at a frantic pace. And Emma is excitable!

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Bankholidayhelp · 16/05/2024 08:52

Ooh I've just posted about this (think we must have posted at the same time!)
It was robust! Brought out the (what I think!) is the best of EB, but also an open (ish) answer from GK which would not have been possible only a few weeks ago.

Cass has let in a lot of light.

sashagabadon · 16/05/2024 08:51

But why a battle? Everyone who has given this 5 mins thought would agree with minister. It doesn’t need to be a battle and it puts listeners off imo.

heldinadream · 16/05/2024 08:49

NeedANewOne25 · 16/05/2024 08:48

I think Gillian Keegan is holding her own pretty well. Emma is a very challenging interviewer. It is an interesting listen.

Yes GK is holding her own and that means they are really trying to battle out the nitty gritty - on a fully mainstream prog. So refreshing.

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sashagabadon · 16/05/2024 08:49

Porn bit better but why couldn’t the gender bit have been like that. It was unnecessarily argumentative

sashagabadon · 16/05/2024 08:48

I think it’s dreadful. Emma talking over her continuously, not letting her expand her points, going off on irrelevant tangents, Misunderstanding what she is saying (deliberately I assume)
i think minister is doing her best to explain what is a complicated subject and Emma should calm down abit!!

heldinadream · 16/05/2024 08:48

OK now talking about porn. Emma on the Today prog - what a bloody breakthrough! She is already amazing only been on it a couple of days!

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NeedANewOne25 · 16/05/2024 08:48

I think Gillian Keegan is holding her own pretty well. Emma is a very challenging interviewer. It is an interesting listen.