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Emily Sheffield is a boss

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ArabellaScott · 14/05/2024 10:46

https://twitter.com/JeremyVineOn5/status/1789962540593934651

Jeremy Vine is Disappointed Reasonable Man let down by JKR's tone. Marvyn Harrison is Very Cross that JKR is not Kind enough and says her 'rhetoric' is 'disgusting'.

Emily Sheffield holds her own despite being talked over and her points dismissed by two blokes defending another bloke after a woman was nasty to him.

A message from women everywhere:

https://twitter.com/JeremyVineOn5/status/1789962540593934651

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ScrapeMyArse · 15/05/2024 11:54

AReasonablePerson · 14/05/2024 18:11

Sorry, but COME ON! The grown up approach in life is to address issues rather than attack people because they may have a different view on something else. This kind of thing is what got us all in this mess in the first place. We are not America!

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I know! I agree with you! That was my (badly made) point!

I was responding with sarcasm to the poster I thought might have been doing the whole guilt by association thing by pointing out who Emily is related to. On the other hand they might have just been being informative.

Helleofabore · 15/05/2024 03:30

I would have hoped by now that people admonishing Joanne Rowling for her tweets would have the forethought to check the time line of the person she is accused of being hateful towards. After Willoughby, surely enough people understood that supporting a male abuser over their victim doesn’t work out showing the supporter as being on the right side of the minute, let alone ‘history’.

And yet, the pattern repeats. Abusive male person is publicly supported and is the one portrayed as the victim when their female victim turns public attention onto that male abuser.

It is misogyny in action. Let them speak seems to show that misogyny is a feature not a bug of those supporting gender identity ideology.

Swamphag · 14/05/2024 18:36

For the past five years (or so) JKR: reasonableness personified, supports trans people, stand up for women, is polite and witty

TRAs: send death threats, issue rape threats, add porn to a Twitter post about a children's book, post details of where she lives, refer to her in the most disgusting language

JKR (who has by now clearly had enough): "That bloke's a bloke"

The likes of Jeremy Vine: "Why is she so mean!?!"

Urgh.

AReasonablePerson · 14/05/2024 18:11

ScrapeMyArse · 14/05/2024 16:19

Off to self flagellate myself for being in agreement on reality with someone Tory - adjacent (soz if you were merely being informative rather than guilt by association shaming)

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BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 14/05/2024 16:20

That twitter thread is a joy to read, so many comments along the line of but he is a white middle aged straight man.

ScrapeMyArse · 14/05/2024 16:19

Yellowcrocuspatch · 14/05/2024 15:14

Emily Sheffield is the sister of Samantha Cameron, aka David Cameron’s sister in law.

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Off to self flagellate myself for being in agreement on reality with someone Tory - adjacent (soz if you were merely being informative rather than guilt by association shaming)

Rightsraptor · 14/05/2024 15:46

I'd never heard of that Marvin before and I must say I'm very unimpressed by him. Barges in with his explanations for the little woman who clearly doesn't know which way is up.

Apart from she does. She knows it way better than either of those men. And did you hear the ease with which Vine called Clarke 'Lucy' and 'she'? I wonder if "she'd" be in Vine's little black book, should his marriage end.

Floisme · 14/05/2024 15:24

Yellowcrocuspatch · 14/05/2024 15:14

Emily Sheffield is the sister of Samantha Cameron, aka David Cameron’s sister in law.

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You seem to have missed out that she's also an experienced journalist and broadcaster who, I believe, has been Deputy Editor of Vogue and Editor of The Evening Standard.

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 14/05/2024 15:22

Boiledbeetle · 14/05/2024 14:47

TRA Men : be kind... Be nice...

Women: Oh fuck off!

TRA allies: "Comprehension is not requisite for cooperation”

Women: "We understand fine. We'll neither be coerced nor have our speech compelled. You appear to think that's a problem."

Yellowcrocuspatch · 14/05/2024 15:14

ScrapeMyArse · 14/05/2024 11:53

Confess I'd never heard of Emily but she was ace!

Emily Sheffield is the sister of Samantha Cameron, aka David Cameron’s sister in law.

SinnerBoy · 14/05/2024 15:03

I know, it's all Unkind, unhelpful, unnecessary, increases prejudice against transw...

"But what about 'Suck my girl dick! Die in a grease fire! Here's my pet baseball bat with barbed wire."

Tumbleweed.....

Boiledbeetle · 14/05/2024 14:47

TRA Men : be kind... Be nice...

Women: Oh fuck off!

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ArabellaScott · 14/05/2024 14:34

Clark has sent many tweets to JKR admonishing her and calling her names:

'Troglodyte' 'bigot' 'lowest of the low' 'hateful bigot' 'boring' 'a cishet' 'transphobic twonk' 'terf', etc.

He's a dedicated activist who has been listed in the 'Diva Power List'.

JKR on Clark:

'straight, white, middle-aged bloke'.

Men everywhere: 'BURN THE WITCH'

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lcakethereforeIam · 14/05/2024 13:57

Well, this puts another layer of 'wtf were you thinking' Hayton?

AReasonablePerson · 14/05/2024 12:21

ArabellaScott · 14/05/2024 12:05

What happened to all the vaguely stirring phrases like 'well behaved women rarely make history ' and 'nevertheless she persisted' etc?

Feminists are tolerated so long as they don't actually threaten to upset men.

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There is this one from a recent poster

decent men keep out of female spaces

Think its time has come

SinnerBoy · 14/05/2024 12:18

Jezza still hasn't deigned to answer my question about Clarky's misogynist posts against women. Do you think he's too busy scolding JKR to bother?

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ArabellaScott · 14/05/2024 12:05

What happened to all the vaguely stirring phrases like 'well behaved women rarely make history ' and 'nevertheless she persisted' etc?

Feminists are tolerated so long as they don't actually threaten to upset men.

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ScrapeMyArse · 14/05/2024 11:53

Confess I'd never heard of Emily but she was ace!

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 14/05/2024 11:47

SinnerBoy · 14/05/2024 11:21

I wonder why Jeremy didn't mention all the vile abuse, which Clark has dished out to women on social media?

Different rules for Sacred Caste?

I would watch a podcast series of people in media studies analysing the coverage of this and other stories. I know there are some high-powered people commenting on stories but there seems to be homogeneity on the presentation of some stories.

Igmum · 14/05/2024 11:39

Thanks @AReasonablePerson that's really useful. Agree, women simply not being nice and not centreing men in all things is not unreasonable

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ArabellaScott · 14/05/2024 11:28

Women stating facts is beyond the pale.

The same man has insulted and impugned JKR, but God forbid she state he's a man.

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Yellowcrocuspatch · 14/05/2024 11:28

I am fed up of men telling us they know our bodies better than we do.

AReasonablePerson · 14/05/2024 11:22

Posting this here courtesy of @dialsquarenitter.poast.org/galluslass/status/1789969437627392114#m Reveals this particular media storm to be the trolling of women that it is. Just more of the same.

SinnerBoy · 14/05/2024 11:21

I wonder why Jeremy didn't mention all the vile abuse, which Clark has dished out to women on social media?

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 14/05/2024 11:13

Thanks for the video OP, loved that

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