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NHS HR person claims to reject GC applicants

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nothingcomestonothing · 13/05/2024 07:21

Anyone happen to know where this person works? He's claiming he illegally discriminates against job applicants with GC views, I'd love to discuss that with his employer.

https://twitter.com/mushycrouton/status/1789057690028646416

https://twitter.com/mushycrouton/status/1789057690028646416

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Citrusandginger · 24/05/2024 07:54

How can you be sacked from a job you don't have?

nothingcomestonothing · 23/05/2024 20:00

Buntycat · 23/05/2024 10:04

I see he now claims he's being persecuted by people trying to get him sacked. Let’s hope he is sacked, either for unlawfully discriminating against job applicants because of his personal beliefs or for lying and bringing his employer into disrepute.

Poor they/them, being persecuted for boasting online that they break the law in their job. How sad.

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Whiteglasshouse · 23/05/2024 10:22

Ingenieur · 13/05/2024 08:12

Sam also doesn't understand what being gender critical means, as evidenced by another post on Sam's feed.

This is quite a common belief amongst GI people. There was an article in a professional SW magazine a while back saying that GC people believe in adherence to sex stereotypes, and that is how they differed from GI. Like Sam , that person was a gay man. Perhaps TRAs have worked out that lying to non-gender conforming people that GC is all about gender conformity is a way to effectively get them to hate us?

I have NO respect for people who claim they oppose a position that they have not actually bothered to research. If you don't know what someone believes, don't claim you disagree with them.

Buntycat · 23/05/2024 10:04

I see he now claims he's being persecuted by people trying to get him sacked. Let’s hope he is sacked, either for unlawfully discriminating against job applicants because of his personal beliefs or for lying and bringing his employer into disrepute.

nhsdoctor · 17/05/2024 10:57

He/she doesn't appear to work at New Cross Hospital in maternity as they stated (what a shock! Not). Update from my communication to the Wolverhampton NHS Trust:

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. An investigation has failed to identify an employee with this name at our Trust.

Not sure what name they are referring to as I would bet that there are several people called "Sam" at the Trust! Although probably not so many called Mushy Crouton.

ditalini · 13/05/2024 17:30

Chersfrozenface · 13/05/2024 15:39

According to a post on this thread at 12.27, Sam has previously posted about being a transman, so actually female.

Unless it's a different post, that's not how I read the twitter convo - I think Sam was saying that GC people think he's a transman (he's got a bit of a round baby face) but hah hah the sillies he's a gay man.

If Sam is even a real person and not an AI generated rage merchant.

ArabellaScott · 13/05/2024 17:12

songaboutjam · 13/05/2024 13:54

It baffles me why they bother. Screenshots are so easy to fake it's surely simpler to do that than go through the trouble of setting up a troll account.

Because if you write a post and put it on MN then it is sort of somehow not fake. Even if you are a bad faith troll doing it deliberately for a screenshot.

Chersfrozenface · 13/05/2024 15:39

DrBlackbird · 13/05/2024 15:34

I know which I’d pick. Another gay man who is helping other men to the detriment of women. Depressingly this is no longer surprising.

According to a post on this thread at 12.27, Sam has previously posted about being a transman, so actually female.

DrBlackbird · 13/05/2024 15:34

FrancescaContini · 13/05/2024 07:51

Disingenuous, too, linking GC views with homophobia. Or simply spectacularly thick.

I know which I’d pick. Another gay man who is helping other men to the detriment of women. Depressingly this is no longer surprising.

SinnerBoy · 13/05/2024 15:04

ditalini · Today 08:06

I'd put money on him making all this up tbh, but that's because surely no-one's that stupid.

I'm simultaneously relieved and peeved that Sam isn't really who they claim. It would have been ironic for them to get sacked and for it to turn out it was all fabricated.

Treesarenotgreene · 13/05/2024 14:24

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 13/05/2024 14:14

What so one minute he’s working in hr, the next he’s helping bring new babies into the world?

Yes. Quite!!!

FrancescaContini · 13/05/2024 14:19

Treesarenotgreene · 13/05/2024 14:11

He works in the birthing unit at New Cross hospital.

Hopefully not “assigning” any baby their “sex at birth”

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 13/05/2024 14:14

What so one minute he’s working in hr, the next he’s helping bring new babies into the world?

Treesarenotgreene · 13/05/2024 14:11

He works in the birthing unit at New Cross hospital.

songaboutjam · 13/05/2024 13:55

songaboutjam · 13/05/2024 13:54

It baffles me why they bother. Screenshots are so easy to fake it's surely simpler to do that than go through the trouble of setting up a troll account.

And on this note, this is why archiving > screenshots.

songaboutjam · 13/05/2024 13:54

Rainbowshit · 13/05/2024 13:50

Fairly standard for TRAs to start threads like that and screenshot before it is deleted to try and smear mumsnet.

It baffles me why they bother. Screenshots are so easy to fake it's surely simpler to do that than go through the trouble of setting up a troll account.

Rainbowshit · 13/05/2024 13:50

FlakyPoet · 13/05/2024 11:57

What about this? Sharing the post of an obvious troll on mumsnet.

Fairly standard for TRAs to start threads like that and screenshot before it is deleted to try and smear mumsnet.

ArabellaScott · 13/05/2024 13:31

RichardMarxisinnocent · 13/05/2024 08:08

I'm not convinced he even works in the NHS. I do, and that vast majority of jobs are applied for by online application form, not by CV. Nobody sees the name and personal details of the applicants until shortlisting is completed and people have been invited to interview, so no opportunity to look them up on social media until then. At interview it's generally the manager and at least one colleague on the panel. There might also be an HR rep (but in my department i have never had one on a panel with me) but if they wanted to veto a GC candidate they'd have to get the rest of the panel to agree and potentially get them to agree to fake the scoring.

Thanks, that's helpful perspective.

Disturbed person talking shit, then.

theDudesmummy · 13/05/2024 13:01

Oh! I hadn't picked up that this person is actually a woman! And presumably a straight one as she is attracted to men. She really isn't well.

StealthSpinach · 13/05/2024 12:42

Sam, from Sam’s own postings, is aggressively insisting Sam is a gay man. Sam posts about hating “straights”, that no one who is straight can speak for gay people, that GCs are “paedophiles”, etc. whilst also posting earlier about being a trans-identified female (transman).

Sam needs some help and support, and a pretty huge reality check.

nhsdoctor · 13/05/2024 12:41

I am afraid that I did rise to the bait, I have contacted that Trust on my NHS email and pointed out that this person claims to work there and that he is gleefully describing illegal HR practices. I sent them a link to this thread. This really gets me angry, as a lifelong NHS worker.

(I have NC for this post, but I am very much a regular here. Because I sent the email from my own NHS email address, under my real name, anyone who reads that email and then reads this thread will be able to tell exactly who I am, so didn't want to use my usual name).

Igmum · 13/05/2024 12:34

He's posted about the birthing unit at New Cross Hospital Wolverhampton last November.

NHS HR person claims to reject GC applicants
BoreOfWhabylon · 13/05/2024 12:16

As others have already pointed out, Sam is either some sort of spoof or a liar/fantasist, or both.

Not worth rising to the bait.

theDudesmummy · 13/05/2024 12:12

He has also posted about waiting for a mental health assessment. I hope he gets the help he needs soon...

theDudesmummy · 13/05/2024 12:11

I thought that too, he sems to post every few minutes all day every day! He did however, in a deleted tweet, specifically refer to working in maternity at New Cross Hospital in Wolverhampton. It would be very interesting if anyone who works there or uses that service was on MN and could comment on whether he is there!

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