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Referee Changing Rooms

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May2024 · 13/05/2024 06:20

Does anyone know where football referees get changed?

"Lucy" Clark is the first trans manager in English Women's football, just wondered where he would change.

JK tweeted * When I was young all the football managers were straight, white, middle-
aged blokes, so it's fantastic to see how much things have changed.*

I make no apologies for the the Daily Mail link

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13407513/JK-Rowling-accused-cruelty-mocks-transgender-football-manager-comparing-straight-white-middle-aged-bloke.html

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Snowypeaks · 13/05/2024 22:20

SupportRobin · 13/05/2024 21:19

At all? So where do they do their pre-match and half time team talks?

Big clubs have tactics rooms, smaller ones just find somewhere else!

Truthlikeness · 13/05/2024 22:02

At half time you stay on the side of the pitch. It's often a long walk back to the changing rooms and typically you only have about 5 mins.
Referees (male and female) invariably turn up ready in their kit. On the rare occasions they needed to change they will not do it with the players - I guess like to maintain that separation - so will use a different room.

Truthlikeness · 13/05/2024 22:02

At grassroots level, male managers do not go in female changing rooms - the pre-match talks are done pitch side, or they might go in the changing room after everyone has changed (after checking).
Female managers will go in the changing rooms while players are getting charged and they can do the team talk there too.
Managers don't need to get changed.

SupportRobin · 13/05/2024 21:19

Snowypeaks · 13/05/2024 15:25

A bigger question is what are the FA rules about male managers being in the dressing room while the women's team are changing.

Male managers are not allowed in the players' dressing room in the women's leagues in England.

At all? So where do they do their pre-match and half time team talks?

May2024 · 13/05/2024 21:16

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/05/2024 21:03

Someone's rattled

The narcissistic rage.

WallaceinAnderland · 13/05/2024 19:47

@FlakyPoet no IW hasn't worked for years. Does a bit of advertising on X for some bottled sauce and promo items. Or used to. Think that was stopped as unauthorised advertising?

FlakyPoet · 13/05/2024 19:43

Boiledbeetle · 13/05/2024 19:41

Well isn't that pleasant! And India wonders why India hardly gets any work these days. Maybe India should try washing India's mouth out with soap.

Cross posted

FlakyPoet · 13/05/2024 19:43

Does IW still have a career? That vicious misogynist outburst seems really reckless.

Boiledbeetle · 13/05/2024 19:41

WallaceinAnderland · 13/05/2024 19:13

Someone's rattled

Well isn't that pleasant! And India wonders why India hardly gets any work these days. Maybe India should try washing India's mouth out with soap.

FlakyPoet · 13/05/2024 19:36

WallaceinAnderland · 13/05/2024 19:13

Someone's rattled

Blimey!

I’m surprised IW would want to stand shoulder to shoulder with ‘Lucy’.

SirChenjins · 13/05/2024 19:35

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WallaceinAnderland · 13/05/2024 19:13

Someone's rattled

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ZeldaFighter · 13/05/2024 18:20

Good to see Miffy getting some fame 👌

RufustheFactualReindeer · 13/05/2024 18:12

GerbilStyle · 13/05/2024 17:38

Funny how those horrible tweets from that man pretending to be a woman aren't in the news

Isn’t it just

velvetydogtoy · 13/05/2024 17:59

Bloody hell JKR is fantastic. 💪

GerbilStyle · 13/05/2024 17:38

Funny how those horrible tweets from that man pretending to be a woman aren't in the news

SirChenjins · 13/05/2024 17:14

That testosterone fuelled anger of Lucy’s is really showing itself there - let’s hope he can control himself better on the pitch.

FlakyPoet · 13/05/2024 17:10

DialSquare · 13/05/2024 16:32

What a creep!

DialSquare · 13/05/2024 16:32

Try this link to Nitter

nitter.poast.org/galluslass/status/1789969437627392114#m

May2024 · 13/05/2024 16:31

For those not on twitter!!!

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Snowypeaks · 13/05/2024 16:24

It's illegible to me, DialSquare - very fuzzy. Would you mind re-posting?

DialSquare · 13/05/2024 16:12

Interesting

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Snowypeaks · 13/05/2024 15:25

A bigger question is what are the FA rules about male managers being in the dressing room while the women's team are changing.

Male managers are not allowed in the players' dressing room in the women's leagues in England.

GerbilStyle · 13/05/2024 15:22

ValueAddedTaxonomy · 13/05/2024 07:31

just wondered where he would change.

Did you really, or did you just want a pretext for yet another thread on this subject, and for posting the photos?

I'm fully gc, but honest to god I don't think anyone gets anything useful from yet another thread for rehearsing anger and well-worn phrases. It wrongfoots the gc position, facilitating the sentences in that guardian article about mn the other day. In that article the author went halfway towards acknowleding women's reasonable concerns as expressed on mn, but then went on to add words to the effect of 'oh but the obsession, shading into bigotry'
If you have useful points to make, then make them. Don't just bob your pitchfork up and down.

It's not women with pitchforks, it's the trans identifying men wedging him selves into women's spaces. If you were truly GC you'd be a bit more worried about the effect that this has on women.