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People who just don't get it

79 replies

Crowgirl · 10/05/2024 23:55

Sorry all. I'm just fed up. Old dear friend over tonight all of the well with shouldn't we be kind? Trans women don't have penises. It's not about sterrotyoes. No one thinks kids should be treated medically. JK Rowling is mean. Of course trans sisters should be allowed in women's spaces

My head is going to explode. The absence of critical thinking is too much. I never start threads but I am so sad., so angry and so perplexed.

Sorry but I gave up debating this shit a long time ago and somehow got drawn into shaming tonight. The absence of critical thinking is beyond me.

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Runor · 11/05/2024 08:14

yes, it’s really frustrating. I’d love to have a proper conversation about why people think these things (what they mean by ‘woman’ etc), but somehow that’s never acceptable. Asking reasonable questions is called a dogwhistle, or there is some other social punishment. As you say OP the absence (and rejection) of critical thinking is unbelievable

lonelywater · 11/05/2024 01:42

Isla Bryson, Karen White, Laurel Hubbard. Get your dear friend to explain these characters to you.

TheColourOutOfSpace · 11/05/2024 01:31

Lots of people don't tend to put much thought into difficult or complex issues - preferring to rely on glib statements like 'we can all get along'.

There is a lot of ignorance and misunderstanding of transgenderism (and gender activists deliberately avoid correcting people because it works in their favour). Plenty of folks still think 'trans' people, especially men, get their penis surgically removed. Or that men who call themselves trans are mostly gay. Once they realise the vast majority of men who call themselves women keep their penis, and they see all the blokes calling themselves a lesbian - blind acceptance plummets dramatically.

Generally, people tend not to care about an issue until it significantly affects them or their families. So it's definitely frustrating when nothing you say seems to be getting through.

redalex261 · 11/05/2024 00:54

It is insane when this happens. It’s really, really hard not to rant. I know I sound crazed when I let my gob run away with me. I honestly think lots of people still don’t think it affects THEM so don’t care. Until it does.

As for men - the school of thought with men is definitely “if he is willing to chop his dick n’balls off it must be truly desperate” and therefore that man deserves to be treated as a woman on the basis of this ultimate sacrifice. They certainly aren’t threatened by it - any more than they are threatened by a trans-identified female. They are no more than comic oddities to Mr Average.

It’s only when the realisation there’s no surgery required for the bearded lady to pop into their daughter’s changing area that the penny drops.