Gender GP Article in the Times on Their Use of AI

Yes. How can it be legal?

Suzie was overheard at the WPATH conference soon after joining, which was held in Ireland, plotting to get into the Irish market, and from what I can ascertain, wasn't too enthusiastic about the management [ie she wanted to be in charge and they weren't too happy about that].

Anyway, may I say I am Jack's Double Take Brother on the topic of 'Gender GP being called unethical'...by the TRAs.

RethinkingLife · Yesterday 20:54

They were appalled to discover that the online clinic they trusted as the experts in transgender medicine is now using artificial intelligence to influence their course of treatment. The website, which is registered in Singapore, is transferring its “care” of a vulnerable group of people, many of whom have complex mental health issues, from advisers to algorithms. Not only that, but it has admitted in a statement to its subscribers, many of whom pay hundreds if not thousands of pounds to access off-label prescriptions for masculinising and feminising hormones, that it had switched to this new “next generation” system without telling them.

That's exactly what I copied to paste here. How on Earth can using AI to diagnose and prescribe drugs be in any way ethical, let alone legal? Does Singapore allow remote diagnosis and that's why they've hosted their website there?

They're utterly despicable.

She left in July 2023 so was only there 5 months

Can it be that there was an organisation too ethically dubious even for Susie Green?

This ghoulish couple and their henchmen are cruelly influencing and taking advantage of desperate people and now they can do it with even lower overheads (and accuracy) thanks to software. Revolting, avaricious, and dangerous.

Edited for spelling

I run a medical practice and we have long refused to engage with these. The problem is they are much cheaper than legit sites so desperate people get angry we won't touch them. I agree with need for quality counselling regardless of provider.

There is a YouTuber called Ezra Butler who is F to M trans and despite having previous dysmorphia issues and ED, Ezra managed to be put on testosterone and have top surgery in the space of 6 months through Gender GP, all while sharing the joy with thousands of young followers!

Absolutely criminal

You mean they were grifters through and through?

Astonished, I tell you. ASTONISHED.

Yes and the details about some of these young people going into underground sex work, with all the risks that entails, to raise money for these 'treatments'. Just when I think we have scraped the bottom of the barrel with this, something worse comes along.

I can't see Ig's second link, most strange

Is that picture one of those "before and after 6 months on hormones, how am I doing?" pictures?
Which one is the before?

She left in July 2023 so was only there 5 months

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4849095-susie-green-has-left-gender-gp

I just read the link. It's heart-breaking; how many poor Theos are out there, being exploited by these scum-bags?

Please excuse typo, should say SG left GenderGP in April 2024.

Occasionally I am caught short when I come face to face with pure fucking evil. It has only happened a few times in my life, but the fucking ghouls profiting off vulnerable gender confused kids whilst pretending they believe they are doing the right thing, I very much hope have a very special place in hell. They are so utterly vile and contemptible.

The Webberleys and the Irish "yeet the teets" butcher surgeon are so fucking malevolent. I don't think any horror film has dreamt up anything worse than them. Cutting healthy, just developing breast tissue out of distressed kids, giving vulnerable kids unproven irreversible treatments all for profit. They make me so fucking angry.

I am so grateful that the Cass report has made operating so much harder for these quacks.

I believe the sugar daddy donation was the only money that SG raised for GGP

Did Susie Green leave ahead of the sugar daddy donation story?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5031331-gender-gp-clinic-accepts-donation-from-a-sugar-daddy

Just checked and it seems SG's time with them was very brief.

Joined Feb 2023: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4739464-susie-green-has-joined-gender-gp

Left April 2023 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5049657-susie-green-is-launching-a-new-trans-helpline

I cannot get over the fact they have outsourced highly sensitive and requiring extensive expertise sessions to a bot.

This should be considered negligence of care.

Crikey. The reasons to be hugely concerned about this company just keep on coming.

So many vulnerable people have been taken advantage of.

Whatever happened to that thing they employed Susie green to sort?

Yes I accept that is as clear as mud!

There was supposed to be some sort of fund gender GP were setting up to help those who didn't have the money to afford stuff? Was that just a money grab as well?

Well I can’t see how this could go wrong 🤔

Just read they've gone on the run away from bailiffs. Come to try and find about it on here as I don't have an account

Truly horrified to read this. This is completely unchartered territory and it makes it so much worse that it has such profound impacts on people's health-related quality of life.

They were appalled to discover that the online clinic they trusted as the experts in transgender medicine is now using artificial intelligence to influence their course of treatment.
The website, which is registered in Singapore, is transferring its “care” of a vulnerable group of people, many of whom have complex mental health issues, from advisers to algorithms. Not only that, but it has admitted in a statement to its subscribers, many of whom pay hundreds if not thousands of pounds to access off-label prescriptions for masculinising and feminising hormones, that it had switched to this new “next generation” system without telling them.

What's that? Gender GP are a bunch of shysters!!

Gosh! Shocked face!

If only people would have listened to those apparently shrieking bigoted gender critical women who kept calling them out on their shit!

I'm bloody annoyed that there are innocent confused young people caught up in this shit show