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The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) has retained its accreditation as an ‘A status’ National Human Rights Institution

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IwantToRetire · 09/05/2024 21:22

The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) has retained its accreditation as an ‘A status’ National Human Rights Institution.
Some civil society organisations in the UK wrote to the Global Alliance of National Human Rights Institutions’ Sub-Committee on Accreditation (SCA) last year, asking for the EHRC’s accreditation to be reviewed.

The SCA considered the issues raised in detail through its Special Review process.

The issues considered included the EHRC’s advice to the UK government on the definition of ‘sex’ in the Equality Act 2010; the EHRC’s work to address discrimination against trans people in the UK; the steps the EHRC has taken to strengthen cooperation with civil society organisations working on trans rights; and the EHRC’s internal investigation of complaints by staff.

The SCA has now confirmed to the EHRC that it remains fully compliant with the ‘Paris Principles’, which provide the benchmark for high-performing, independent National Human Rights Institutions.
The decision means that the EHRC retains its independent participation rights at the UN Human Rights Council and remains able to report directly to the United Nations on human rights issues.

Continues with statement from Baroness Kishwer Falkner, Chairwoman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission at https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/human-rights-regulator-retains-status-0

Human rights regulator retains ‘A status’ | EHRC

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/human-rights-regulator-retains-status-0

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ValueAddedTaxonomy · 10/05/2024 20:41

I noticed in one of the stories that has just come up (Times or Telegraph) that Stonewall is withholding comment unitl the full response has been published by Ganhri. So perhaps there will be fuller coverage once this fuller info is available.

I do hope there is balanced and appropriate coverage from eg the guardian.
In the post-Brexit populist world there have been so many attempts ( in the "this country is sick of experts" mould) to discredit referee-style institutions such as the Electoral Commission and the courts etc. Normally the guardian is piously rational about such populist failures. Let's see if they can maintain the high ground in this case.

BathTangle · 10/05/2024 20:11

Notably reported on Times and Telegraph, and Guido Fawkes, but nothing on the BBC as far as I can see (although they reported in Oct that EHRC was "at risk of UN downgrade")

birchtreeglow · 10/05/2024 19:51

Sorry, wrong thread!!

birchtreeglow · 10/05/2024 17:56

Same Dr. Alan Mitchell.

"The CPT is a treaty monitoring body. The UK is party to the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) and also party to the European Convention for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. The word "prevention" is key."

"Transgender people are also often at greater risk."

https://www.childabuseinquiry.scot/sites/default/files/2023-11/Dr%20Alan%20Mitchell%20Witness%20Statement.pdf

SinnerBoy · 10/05/2024 15:01

Igmum · Yesterday 21:45

Excellent [rubs hands together] excellent .

I read that in a Monty Burns voice...

HellonHeels · 10/05/2024 14:48

ValueAddedTaxonomy · 10/05/2024 14:34

I can't see any coverage of this in the press (just guido fawkes). Given the current political fallout from similar attempts to discredit Cass, I thought it would be a moderately significant story.

It is a similar dynamic in both cases. Perfectly standard fact-based forms of enquiry (the Cass Review, the revised EHRC guidance around the Equality Act) are targeted for delegitimisation when they fail to support a particular narrative.

Just landed on thw Times site.

ValueAddedTaxonomy · 10/05/2024 14:34

I can't see any coverage of this in the press (just guido fawkes). Given the current political fallout from similar attempts to discredit Cass, I thought it would be a moderately significant story.

It is a similar dynamic in both cases. Perfectly standard fact-based forms of enquiry (the Cass Review, the revised EHRC guidance around the Equality Act) are targeted for delegitimisation when they fail to support a particular narrative.

theilltemperedclavecinist · 10/05/2024 11:57

tbh if they'd been downgraded and branded as anti-trans monsters I would have seen it as a badge of pride for their impartial adherence to human rights for all

MillOnTheGoss · 10/05/2024 11:20

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StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 10/05/2024 07:39

IwantToRetire · 10/05/2024 01:26

I must admit there was part of me that had been a bit (more than I liked) worried about the outcome.

Given the trans narrative in some many of their different sections, I wondered if the EHRC would get an unbiased hearing.

But what a shit show.

Talk about keeping Kishwer Falkner constantly fire fighting rather than focusing on her job.

But maybe that is what this is about.

Just constant diversions, and time consuming bureaucracy, rather than the EHRC tidying up the mess from the time when Stonewalled staff thought they were in charge.

And then, as with the actions against LGB Alliance, accusations that they're failing to do anything meaningful because it's so straightforward to swim when others are forcibly attempting to drown you…

ArabellaScott · 10/05/2024 07:03

GC5 · 09/05/2024 21:58

Just looked at the list of organisations which called for the review of EHRC’s accreditation. Lots of the usual suspects. But also Liberty! FFS. Now that’s an organisation which has clearly forgotten what it is supposed to stand for. Astonished their members and Board supported this.

I left several years back over their genderist stance - and only recently found out about their historic support for PIE.

WhereAreWeNow · 10/05/2024 06:15

Great news.

IwantToRetire · 10/05/2024 01:26

I must admit there was part of me that had been a bit (more than I liked) worried about the outcome.

Given the trans narrative in some many of their different sections, I wondered if the EHRC would get an unbiased hearing.

But what a shit show.

Talk about keeping Kishwer Falkner constantly fire fighting rather than focusing on her job.

But maybe that is what this is about.

Just constant diversions, and time consuming bureaucracy, rather than the EHRC tidying up the mess from the time when Stonewalled staff thought they were in charge.

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RethinkingLife · 09/05/2024 23:00

lechiffre55 · 09/05/2024 22:04

GIRFUY = get it right f*ing up you ?

I misread it as an adaptation of this and was somewhat confused.

https://gettingitrightfirsttime.co.uk/

Getting It Right First Time - GIRFT

The Getting It Right First Time (GIRFT) programme is helping to improve the quality of care within the NHS by bringing improvements

https://gettingitrightfirsttime.co.uk

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 09/05/2024 22:58

GC5 · 09/05/2024 21:58

Just looked at the list of organisations which called for the review of EHRC’s accreditation. Lots of the usual suspects. But also Liberty! FFS. Now that’s an organisation which has clearly forgotten what it is supposed to stand for. Astonished their members and Board supported this.

Liberty has lost their way for some time. Wasn't there something to do with a piece Maya wrote and Liberty or a similar organisation behaved very poorly?

https://hiyamaya.net/2020/05/17/three-human-rights-organisations-bravely-capitulate/

https://www.forstater.com/time-for-civil-debate-yet/

Three human rights organisations bravely capitulate

I wrote an article published yesterday (by the feminist charity FiLiA ) on the question of “trans rights”: what are the fundamental human rights in question, and how can they be reconci…

https://hiyamaya.net/2020/05/17/three-human-rights-organisations-bravely-capitulate

GC5 · 09/05/2024 22:30

ResisterRex · 09/05/2024 22:19

Liberty is not a surprise. Just look at them (NCCL as they then were) and PIE.

That was such a long time ago. Lots of organisations have dubious pasts. But they had changed a lot after that. Completely different staffing, structure, Board and work. They’re supposed to be a human rights organisation now!

GC5 · 09/05/2024 22:27

Rightsraptor · 09/05/2024 22:24

If you're surprised at Liberty's stance, take a look at the horror that the ACLU in the US has become.

Yes, I’ve seen that. Awful. I used to know several, fantastic, people who used to work at Liberty who did really great things while there. I used to be a member myself. Maybe that’s why I’m so shocked. It’s so far out of their remit.

Rightsraptor · 09/05/2024 22:24

If you're surprised at Liberty's stance, take a look at the horror that the ACLU in the US has become.

lechiffre55 · 09/05/2024 22:22

You have to wonder if any of this is sinking in?
We started with a riot of childishness, and now the adults keep turning up to restore order. You have to wonder how long before the children realise the party is over and it's going home time now.

ResisterRex · 09/05/2024 22:19

GC5 · 09/05/2024 21:58

Just looked at the list of organisations which called for the review of EHRC’s accreditation. Lots of the usual suspects. But also Liberty! FFS. Now that’s an organisation which has clearly forgotten what it is supposed to stand for. Astonished their members and Board supported this.

Liberty is not a surprise. Just look at them (NCCL as they then were) and PIE.

Hoardasurass · 09/05/2024 22:14

@lechiffre55 tumble weed from the other side, probably waiting on the "official line" that they can all parrot

Rainbowshit · 09/05/2024 22:07

@lechiffre55

GIRFUY = get it right f*ing up you ?

Got it in one.

lechiffre55 · 09/05/2024 22:05

Hoardasurass · 09/05/2024 21:42

Brilliant news. I'm off over to twitter to see how it's going down with the TRAs

I think we can guess....... :)

lechiffre55 · 09/05/2024 22:04

Rainbowshit · 09/05/2024 21:32

GIRFUY stonewall!! Brilliant news.

GIRFUY = get it right f*ing up you ?

GailBlancheViola · 09/05/2024 22:00

How many times have Stonewall et al tried to get the EHRC's accreditation downgraded? I hope that if they try again the SCA treat them as the vexatious irritants that they are and tell them to FO.