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Gender-neutral lavatories banned in new-build restaurants and offices

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IwantToRetire · 06/05/2024 00:27

The new legislation applies to commercial properties as well as those undergoing ‘major refurbishment’

Bars, restaurants and offices will be barred from creating new premises with gender-neutral lavatories, under changes to the law to take effect later this year.

In a move which ministers said would increase the “safety, privacy and dignity” of women, new non-domestic buildings will be required to include separate male and female lavatories.

Those that cannot do so will have to install so-called universal facilities, which include a lavatory, wash basin and hand dryer behind a lockable door.

As well as affecting all new commercial buildings, the measure will also apply to businesses and hospitality venues undertaking “major refurbishment”

Article continues at https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gender-neutral-lavatories-banned-toilet-commercial-buildings-trans-zzsg826st
and can be read at https://archive.ph/FQlr2

I was thinking this means it will now be the law, but in fact means that a bill to achieve this will only be presented (this week?)

From the Government statement:

Changes to building regulations will ensure that:

  • Separate single-sex toilets facilities are provided for men and women;
  • Self-contained, universal toilets may be provided in addition to single-sex toilets, where space allows;
  • Self-contained universal toilets may be provided instead of single-sex toilets only where lack of space reasonably precludes provision of single-sex toilet accommodation.

Read full statement at https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-lay-new-law-to-halt-the-march-of-gender-neutral-toilets-in-buildings

Gender-neutral lavatories banned in new-build restaurants and offices

The new legislation applies to commercial properties as well as those undergoing ‘major refurbishment’

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/gender-neutral-lavatories-banned-toilet-commercial-buildings-trans-zzsg826st

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Needanewjobsoon · 06/05/2024 04:30

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/06/gender-specific-toilets-to-be-required-in-non-residential-buildings-in-england

I've just seen this too.

I think it may not be a detailed enough plan but the bit in this article says it's to prevent say new schools open that just have neutral toilets.

I've been in a couple of schools recently where the toilets is like lots of stalls and communal washing but one side open to the corridor - and I can see why students wouldn't like this.

My place of work has lots of self contained individual stalls with their own door and own sink. and I have less issue with that. But I've often wondered about people getting locked in!

I am concerned that people will just self identify as the other gender so it won't make any difference....

Gender-specific toilets to be required in non-residential buildings in England

Ministers say move will combat growing concerns about ‘privacy and dignity’ in gender-neutral facilities

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/may/06/gender-specific-toilets-to-be-required-in-non-residential-buildings-in-england

StealthSpinach · 06/05/2024 01:59

I’d be concerned that this would be taken up as a positive by TW, as the toilets are to be segregated by sex, then TW will assert that they are entitled to use female facilities (even if only those with a GRC - and as you can’t check/ask this, then it is a free for all).

dunBle · 06/05/2024 01:37

@Harassedevictee but the second point of the bit in bold is allowing additional provision?

Harassedevictee · 06/05/2024 00:51

I am not convinced that this proposed approach is going to achieve the desired result.

I would prefer some gender neutral toilet provision alongside single sex facilities.

I think transwomen have a point when they say they don’t feel safe in male toilets. Gender neutral toilets as additional facilities resolve this and enable single sex toilets to be truly single sex. It also is inclusive for non-binary people.

I know transwomen argue this is othering but I see this as a compromise.

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