Non binary changing rooms???

I know you probably meant as a joke, but I'm sure that actually in some scenarios it's quite a sound idea. Particularly when the woman's is usually in higher demand or has a queue.

Some women will do it anyways, at times, but why not actively welcome and encourage it, as an option not a requirement, and train men to not expect everyone in their space to be male/consider themselves male? On the women side its about safety but men? No such requirement, just cultural beliefs generally rooted in misogyny or patriarchal values 🤷‍♂️ Personally, I couldn't give a monkeys about sharing space, so long as the space gives everyone adequate privacy & they're not dirty (it's a low bar to beat, I despair sometimes)

Well, given I have to change my son in a filthy accessible/disabled toilet after swimming because he's not allowed in the girls' changing room, and I'm not allowed in the boys', I'd say there's your solution.

They can get changed in the loo. There's a precedent for people who fit neither category. Or they can source funding for building a shed.

Impact analysis for 3b could also include a survey to understand how people are affected by any designated spaces that might be suggested by the management team at step 1 if they think this option should be explored.

By "any other belief" I mean in a similar way to how you might approach a request for a designated prayer room.

This employee has a belief ("we all have a gender identity") that not everyone holds.

Some useful food for thought on balancing belief and discrimination is on this X thread:

https://twitter.com/SVPhillimore/status/1786654538411188622?t=CJALFpkI8BSKPoS43U31Lw&s=19

Well we all know in hindsight what being kind and sharing has done for women and previously safe spaces for women, are you suggesting that disabled people should also be grateful to have their spaces hijacked share too?

Stick a piece of A4 with ‘non binary’ written on it in pen over the sign that says ‘men’. Problem solved.

This....but of course this isn't what happens is it? Mustn't disturb the men folk - it has to be us that makes room and gives up our spaces, despite the fact that it's women who really need single sex spaces the most.

Haven't RTFT but I would approach it like any other accommodation of someone's belief:
Listen to their concerns and put forward some options to address them along with pros and cons.

Step 1. Put forward high level options to your manager to get their feedback on which is the preferred option for the management team. Options could be:

1. Make the male changing room mixed-sex
   Pros: directly addresses the concerns (assuming it does, once you've listened to them)
   Cons: not all men may want this

2. Make the female changing room mixed-sex
   Pros: as above
   Cons: not all women may want this

3a) build a new space or 3b) designate an existing space as a single occupancy mixed-sex changing facility
Pros: as above
Cons: cost if building a new space, loss of an existing facility if repurposing an existing space

Step 2:
Ask your manager how much time and effort you should spend creating the business case for each option.
For 1 and 2, a survey of all male and all female staff would be appropriate, in line with this guidance from the EHRC about single-sex spaces. If you don't consult all staff, this might put the organisation at risk of an indirect discrimination claim based on the PC of sex. For 3a and 3b a cost and impact analysis would be needed.

In other words, keep throwing it back at them.
Meanwhile, you could also suggest that they contact the local MP (or Kemi Badenoch in her capacity as Women and Equalities Minister if the is useless on this) to validate if this exploration that they are asking you to do is a good use of public funds.

And if you do get pushed in to doing 1 or 2 on the quiet, you can report it here:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/kemi-badenoch-asks-for-examples-of-bad-guidance-on-single-sex-spaces

In other words, push as much back on them to make a decision as you can.
A well-worded, fair and factual survey for options 1 and 2 could peak quite a few people, so wouldn't be a bad thing 😁

Some disabilities mean that the toilet may be needed urgently.
Having to wait for someone to change could have a huge impact on this.

What if they identify as a disabled person tho, for the time being?

You're quite right. They could share though?

Nobody is suggesting taking anything away from disabled staff.

How about 'sharing'?

@crockofshite sorting this out should not negatively impact any disabled people who may only be able use the disabled facilities.

It's hard enough being disabled as it is, don't take resources away from us

Is there a disabled toilet? They are usually single space rooms and plenty of room to change in .

Tell the NB to identify a space which they'd like transformed into a NB changing room (while keeping the M & F loos & changing rooms as they are). Give them free range - if they want the CEO's office, so be it.

Another vote for bio males (all genders) and bio females (all genders)

And remind him that he needs to put in a requisition for dog and cat bowls in case any staff members identify as cats or dogs in the future and aren’t able to use cups or mugs.

I’d be asking what their safety concerns are. If they are implying that the women they work with are not safe to be around in the changing rooms this is a serious accusation to make and it should be investigated.

Penis's and no penis's?

So many great (and exasperated) comments about this stupidity. As part of your solution, don't forget to provide your manager with a list of all the other genders and remind them that they will all require special changing facilities if you start deviating from sex based facilities.

I'd also ask them what has made them feel 'unsafe'. Has there been an incident? Were they in the wrong sex changing room and someone didn't want them there? Does it need flagging up to the H&S committee?

Non binary is clearly ridiculous made up attention seeking nonsense anyway. If you are a non girly girl or a non lad type bloke you are still who you are.
Bloody drag race has a lot to answer for in so many ways.

But it would result in that as trans women would still use the female room

These could include but are not limited to:

• separate or single-sex toilets
• domestic violence refuges
• separate or single-sex changing rooms
• hospital wards