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Les Dennis is a man - in case you had any doubts

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SamW98 · 03/05/2024 10:28

WTAF?? Is there anything to make people less likely to attend the theatre that this bollocks?

Les Dennis is a man - in case you had any doubts
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YukNo · 03/05/2024 16:56

Peskysquirrel · 03/05/2024 15:26

It isn't slander. Unless you're saying the "he/him" detail is untrue?🤔

@SirChenjins summed it up: Because he’s the most well known of them all having been in the public eye for decades with no need for he/him (because it’s not the most interesting thing about him)until they/them (which is the most interesting thing about they/them) decided to thrown them’s weight around and require LD to declare what we’ve all known since he appeared on TV in the 70s - which is that he’s a male born man.

Plus the fact he got his very-obviously-male bum out on Extras.

Slightly off topic but it amazes me how brilliant all the actors were on Extras.

Even Daniel Radcliffe 😮

Dartwarbler · 03/05/2024 16:33

I was so looking forward to the opening of Shakespeare North…but I have yet to go to ANY performances

They seem to be unable to actually stage any Shakespeare that they haven’t messed about with to make trendy or woke. There’s way too many new plays lacking any credentials or “seriousness “….im all for be entertained but it is just so obsessed with diversity first and foremost they seem to have forgotten that most of us just want to watch something without gender, race etc being shoved down our throats in every single show . Maybe 1 or 2 plays exploring it per year…but every thing they out on has to “embrace diversity”.

its ironic isn’t it that 12th night is all about cross dressing, and most of Shakespeare’s heroines had to be played by blokes back then…so there was enough to make a statement about without all the additional gender woo they’re obsessed with. They could have been very “clever” but they appear to not want to try.

yep, I looked at it with a “I wonder if that’ll be worth going to?” Then saw the they/them and he and she’s, groaned and moved on swiftly. Another one I won’t be going to.

Notamum12345577 · 03/05/2024 16:27

It seems to be the done thing now, a lot of big businesses encourage it on email signatures and name badges etc

Peskysquirrel · 03/05/2024 16:24

She's a cross-dressing character. She's under the umbrella!

ErrolTheDragon · 03/05/2024 16:20

Yes, I expect they views Viola as nonbinary.

Which pretty much ruins the character. Confused

StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 03/05/2024 16:20

takemeawayagain · 03/05/2024 16:08

I couldn't see that picture so found it on another page (if you scroll down a bit) - where Les Dennis' pronouns aren't listed but everyone else's are??

https://www.explore-liverpool.com/les-dennis-to-star-in-as-malvolio-in-twelfth-night/

This has the pronouns (but no bio).

https://shakespearenorthplayhouse.co.uk/event/twelfth-night-not-too-tame/

Looking at Frost's bio, Frost has an interesting range of stage and TV credits.

Twelfth Night

Not Too Tame return with their second instalment of Shakespeare, an electrifying production of Twelfth Night, starring Les Dennis as Malvolio

https://shakespearenorthplayhouse.co.uk/event/twelfth-night-not-too-tame

SirChenjins · 03/05/2024 16:13

takemeawayagain · 03/05/2024 16:08

I couldn't see that picture so found it on another page (if you scroll down a bit) - where Les Dennis' pronouns aren't listed but everyone else's are??

https://www.explore-liverpool.com/les-dennis-to-star-in-as-malvolio-in-twelfth-night/

I wonder which one came first? I like to think he looked at the first version of the poster and told them to remove the ridiculous pronouns from his photo immediately, rather than being forced to add them in by them twat or face having his home address shared on SM.

WishIMite · 03/05/2024 16:12

I am 100% reading this as a joke, because the play is Twelfth Night. I'm SURE this is just a funny take on the play's theme.

SURELY?

SkiingIsHeaven · 03/05/2024 16:09

Even if I was inclined to go, I definitely wouldn't go now.

Wanky bullshit.

takemeawayagain · 03/05/2024 16:08

I couldn't see that picture so found it on another page (if you scroll down a bit) - where Les Dennis' pronouns aren't listed but everyone else's are??

https://www.explore-liverpool.com/les-dennis-to-star-in-as-malvolio-in-twelfth-night/

IsadoraQuagmire · 03/05/2024 15:41

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 03/05/2024 13:18

Georgia Frost is too old to play Viola. She couldn’t ‘pass’ as a boy at a hundred paces. Some sort of irony there.

That was my first thought. Maybe more convincing if you're sitting in the back row of the Upper Circle.

Peskysquirrel · 03/05/2024 15:40

I imagine LD himself rolled his eyes along with the rest of us.

Yes, I think this too (or I would hope so!) Posters on here have identified the true source of this nonsense in this particular case. And it ain't our Les!

SamW98 · 03/05/2024 15:38

MJCadman · 03/05/2024 15:05

The title is misleading, I assumed he had made a sexist remark or something.

I disagree - nothing in the title to point towards anything sexist

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SamW98 · 03/05/2024 15:36

Trulyme · 03/05/2024 14:40

Why is Les Dennis being singled out here?

He was obviously asked what his pronouns are and he answered honestly, like the others have (most of them).
It’s the person designing the poster who has decided to include them on it.

I don’t think it’s fair to slander someone’s name, when they’ve not done anything wrong.

What a bizarre take on a lighthearted thread.

Please point out where LD is being slandered (or libelled)

As a PP who has got the point of the thread has said, it’s because he’s a household name and it’s a bit of a joke that after 50 years in showbiz he’s having to be announced as he/him. I imagine LD himself rolled his eyes along with the rest of us.

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StickItInTheFamilyAlbum · 03/05/2024 15:32

I don’t think it’s fair to slander someone’s name, when they’ve not done anything wrong.

Slander is spoken, libel is written etc.

Defamation is when a person or organisation uses language to ruin the reputation of a person or business. Slander is spoken defamation. Written defamation, or libel, is anything published or broadcast.

https://www.irwinmitchell.com/personal/protecting-your-rights/resolving-disputes/defamation-slander

Defamation, Libel & Slander Solicitors | Irwin Mitchell

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https://www.irwinmitchell.com/personal/protecting-your-rights/resolving-disputes/defamation-slander#:~:text=Defamation%20is%20when%20a%20person,is%20anything%20published%20or%20broadcast.

Peskysquirrel · 03/05/2024 15:26

Trulyme · 03/05/2024 14:40

Why is Les Dennis being singled out here?

He was obviously asked what his pronouns are and he answered honestly, like the others have (most of them).
It’s the person designing the poster who has decided to include them on it.

I don’t think it’s fair to slander someone’s name, when they’ve not done anything wrong.

It isn't slander. Unless you're saying the "he/him" detail is untrue?🤔

@SirChenjins summed it up: Because he’s the most well known of them all having been in the public eye for decades with no need for he/him (because it’s not the most interesting thing about him)until they/them (which is the most interesting thing about they/them) decided to thrown them’s weight around and require LD to declare what we’ve all known since he appeared on TV in the 70s - which is that he’s a male born man.

Plus the fact he got his very-obviously-male bum out on Extras.

SinnerBoy · 03/05/2024 15:18

Hi!!! I'm Sinner and my pronouns are FO/AD!

MJCadman · 03/05/2024 15:13

I wonder if they actually had to ask him 😂😂

threesixnine · 03/05/2024 15:12

"What are your pronouns Les?"

"Well I don't reeeeally knooooow"

Trulyme · 03/05/2024 15:10

MJCadman · 03/05/2024 15:05

The title is misleading, I assumed he had made a sexist remark or something.

I agree.

I think it’s unfair that he’s being singled out.

MJCadman · 03/05/2024 15:06

I don't mean intentionally op

MJCadman · 03/05/2024 15:05

Trulyme · 03/05/2024 14:40

Why is Les Dennis being singled out here?

He was obviously asked what his pronouns are and he answered honestly, like the others have (most of them).
It’s the person designing the poster who has decided to include them on it.

I don’t think it’s fair to slander someone’s name, when they’ve not done anything wrong.

The title is misleading, I assumed he had made a sexist remark or something.

SirChenjins · 03/05/2024 15:01

Trulyme · 03/05/2024 14:40

Why is Les Dennis being singled out here?

He was obviously asked what his pronouns are and he answered honestly, like the others have (most of them).
It’s the person designing the poster who has decided to include them on it.

I don’t think it’s fair to slander someone’s name, when they’ve not done anything wrong.

Because he’s the most well known of them all having been in the public eye for decades with no need for he/him (because it’s not the most interesting thing about him)until they/them (which is the most interesting thing about they/them) decided to thrown them’s weight around and require LD to declare what we’ve all known since he appeared on TV in the 70s - which is that he’s a male born man.

I don’t think he’s done anything wrong - I feel sorry for him for having to work with such idiots.

NiceNiche · 03/05/2024 14:47

Ney/neigh

Ofcourseshecan · 03/05/2024 14:47

SamW98 · 03/05/2024 10:40

And how would we have known how special ‘they’ are without pronouns?

😂