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Transwimen actors call for trans quota quota for female roles

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GrumpyPanda · 02/05/2024 11:05

.. more specifically, for 2 to 3 TW candidates to be united to every 20-strong audition.

And one of the interviewed, a mid-40s trans actor, complains about getting fewer offers of female roles, ostensibly since "coming out" aged 40. Who's going to tell the poor dear about Amy Schumer's genius sketch celebrating an actress' "last fuckable day"? Welcome to womanhood, "sister."

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/article/2024/may/02/just-let-us-audition-uk-transgender-actors-appeal-to-be-cast-in-non-trans-roles

‘Just let us audition’: UK transgender actors appeal to be cast in non-trans roles

Kim Tatum, Mariah Louca and Reece Lyons combine to call for trans women to be put on an equal footing for cis roles

https://www.theguardian.com/stage/article/2024/may/02/just-let-us-audition-uk-transgender-actors-appeal-to-be-cast-in-non-trans-roles

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AGlinnerOfHope · 02/05/2024 15:54

There was a transman in Fallout, a member of a religious military brotherhood. I kept waiting for the plot twist to be revealed, but no sign so far.

Oops. I didn't realise that character was trans - asked my son with whom I was watching why there was only one woman in the troop

NecessaryScene · 02/05/2024 16:12

I just love the fact that they don't just want a quota, they specifically want some of women's quota.

(and cutted-up pear?)

That's the whole thing in a nutshell.

Yalta · 02/05/2024 16:12

Surely they realise as women at that age your days as an actor unless you have made some sort of impression in the industry it is time to give up

This is the reality of being a woman actor

There are thousands of women actors who just want to audition. Where is there article in the Newspaper

Want to be a woman then this is the reality. Stop thinking with your man brain and assuming that you will get the same privileges as men then bitching about it when you find you don’t.

Act like a woman. Accept the reality and do something else.

CheapThrillsMeanNothing · 02/05/2024 16:00

WitchyWitcherson · 02/05/2024 11:54

Actually, I'd quite like to see a gruff-voiced, 6ft, hairy-chested, five-o'clock shadow'd Elisabeth Bennett in a remake of Pride and Prejudice 😆bring it on!

I'd like (I wouldn't actually) to see a TW take the Anastasia role in 50 Shades of Grey film. Not sure what Jamie Dornan would be happy about that.

ScrapeMyArse · 02/05/2024 15:58

HobnobsChoice · 02/05/2024 15:36

The same actor is in a film called Together Together about surrogacy. Playing the surrogate. And the baby gets named Lamp. I wish I was making this up.

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When will celebrity couples wise up and do the progressive thing, by giving a transwoman the chance to be their surrogate? Such bigots and biological essentialists, always choosing cis.

SinnerBoy · 02/05/2024 15:56

Oh? I've watched up to episode 4, but hadn't noticed.

AGlinnerOfHope · 02/05/2024 15:54

There was a transman in Fallout, a member of a religious military brotherhood. I kept waiting for the plot twist to be revealed, but no sign so far.

mumda · 02/05/2024 15:43

So they think they're women and should be treated as every other woman is, and then they realise what that means, they decide they want to be special. Or did they think that all along.

MalcolmTuckersSwearBox · 02/05/2024 15:41

HobnobsChoice · 02/05/2024 15:36

The same actor is in a film called Together Together about surrogacy. Playing the surrogate. And the baby gets named Lamp. I wish I was making this up.

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Fuck my old boots Hmm

HobnobsChoice · 02/05/2024 15:36

BonnyBo · 02/05/2024 12:29

Any word on transmen? Or is this just another handy illustration of men’s needs overriding women’s?

As an aside, I am someone who can’t always tell. There was a character on “shrill” who is trans and I didn’t know until it became part of the plot. There are times when it’s very obvious though!

The same actor is in a film called Together Together about surrogacy. Playing the surrogate. And the baby gets named Lamp. I wish I was making this up.

MalcolmTuckersSwearBox · 02/05/2024 15:16

IDoNotConsentToAstonResearch · 02/05/2024 15:12

To be fair, they shoehorned a transman into Ripley, to the confusion of some of the older ladies in my knitting group who could tell at once it was a woman but didn’t realise it was a political choice that the audience was meant to politely pretend not to notice.

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Sting's daughter totally threw me as Freddie.

IDoNotConsentToAstonResearch · 02/05/2024 15:12

heathspeedwell · 02/05/2024 11:41

There are already considerably fewer acting roles for women. Netflix has a policy of shoe-horning a transwoman into everything it can. Yet again women will miss out on what little is available.

To be fair, they shoehorned a transman into Ripley, to the confusion of some of the older ladies in my knitting group who could tell at once it was a woman but didn’t realise it was a political choice that the audience was meant to politely pretend not to notice.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 02/05/2024 15:06

@SinnerBoy

😍

When we lived inFrance, one of our favourite vignerons was M. Bigot.

SinnerBoy · 02/05/2024 15:04

Not me, I'm a littleot!

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 02/05/2024 15:02

SammyScrounge · 02/05/2024 13:25

They seem to be overlooking one thing-who is going to pay to see.a trans actor instead of Helen Bonham Carter or Anne Hathaway or.whoever your favourite is?
I wouldn't.

Bigot 🤩

IsadoraQuagmire · 02/05/2024 14:59

Oneofthesurvivors · 02/05/2024 14:55

Are there even that many transwomen actors?

Since any old cross dresser or "non binary" person now seems to refer to themselves as "trans" I daresay there's loads!

AGlinnerOfHope · 02/05/2024 14:58

I think that Queen’s Gambit featured a transwomen playing a music teacher singing to the children in a pleasant voice significantly deeper that the female tenor in my choir.

HootyMcBooby · 02/05/2024 14:56

Yeah. I'm sure Eddie (sorry Suzie) Izzard will now only take female roles and not throw their ideology out the window when it suits them to get a paycheck.

Not.

Oneofthesurvivors · 02/05/2024 14:55

Are there even that many transwomen actors?

IsadoraQuagmire · 02/05/2024 14:54

burnoutbabe · 02/05/2024 14:48

I see it alot in euro crime shows.

But I just assume that their friend /colleague is a trans person and so it's just part of the plot without being relevant to the plot. Not that we are supposed to think they are a woman as such.

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That would be logical, but almost certain that wasn't the case in 2 of the shows I'm thinking of; one English and the other Icelandic. It definitely wasn't the the case in one US film and one US tv series I watched, they were cast as biological women (or teenage girls in the case of 2 of the actors)

SinnerBoy · 02/05/2024 14:54

AnnaMagnani · Today 12:37

Fine but going on the census figures it would be one transwomen for every 200 women.

That was my thought, too. Let's be generous and assume that the 0.5% figure isn't actually much higher than in reality. Why do they want to represent themselves as 400 - 600 times more common than they actually are, in the population?

ProfessorFJLewisThatsYouThatIs · 02/05/2024 14:49

ProfessorFJLewisThatsYouThatIs · 02/05/2024 14:45

Especially if it's a mystery drama with some kind of subtle twist that you have to pick up on in order to 'solve' it - so you're expected to be alert to the fact that the character says a few slightly odd things that don't quite ring 100% true - whilst totally ignoring the fact that they're somebody's mother in the play/film, whilst obviously being male!

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I came back to the thread and should have refreshed again before posting - others have made similar (very good!) points!

burnoutbabe · 02/05/2024 14:48

IsadoraQuagmire · 02/05/2024 12:36

Oh it's horrendous when a man is cast as a woman. I've seen this in several shows now (and one film). It's obvious from the first second they appear onscreen, and I keep waiting for the reference to their being trans. Then I realise that the viewer is actually expected to accept this person as a woman. Then I stop watching the show.

I see it alot in euro crime shows.

But I just assume that their friend /colleague is a trans person and so it's just part of the plot without being relevant to the plot. Not that we are supposed to think they are a woman as such.

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