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India Willoughby is voting for Jamie Driscoll as North East Mayor

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Lovelyview · 01/05/2024 18:13

I haven't seen anything about gender at all in the North East Mayoral election. If India Willoughby thinks Jamie Driscoll is a good candidate that presumably means he thinks trans women are women. Anyone know?

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Lovelyview · 02/05/2024 09:20

WarriorN · 02/05/2024 07:00

It's a two horse race. Weird IW has as the other horse has 100% said twaw. Completely thrown women under the bus.

As she's Labour perhaps IW thinks Labour will end up not so twaw and so Kim will follow? 🤷

Jaime has listened to women and just sat on the fence a bit not wishing to nail his colours either way.

Thanks for that. So Kim M Guinness has definitely said twaw? I couldn't find anything on either of the main candidates positions on this.

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ladygindiva · 02/05/2024 08:41

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Gorgonemilezola · 02/05/2024 08:30

ValueAddedTaxonomy, me too, and am probably going to vote for Driscoll. AFAIK he's not said anything about the trans issue. Wise man.

WickedSerious · 02/05/2024 08:23

TheEyesOfLucyJordon · 02/05/2024 08:09

Who told you that?

I'm a princess from Outer Rurartania. If you send me £1000, I can free up the millions trapped in my country. I'll share with you. Presumably you believe that shite too? 🤦

Did your brother lose his combine harvester in the war against Elbonia?

Soontobe60 · 02/05/2024 08:13

JanesLittleGirl · 01/05/2024 22:37

I have decided to live the life of Hugh Grosvenor, 7th Duke of Westminster. It's a better life than the one I got given at birth.

Sorry, that life has been taken - you’ll have to choose another one!

Runningupthecurtains · 02/05/2024 08:13

Mog65 · 01/05/2024 21:00

Trans women are women and trans men are men. Perhaps everyone should just live their own life.

Woman - adult human female.

Trans woman - adult ✔️ human ✔️ all looking good so far......
Female ❌
Oh no they're fallen at the last fence.

So as they don't meet the traditional definition of women could you please supply us with a definition of 'woman' that means it includes some male people. Please note 'its very complicated' isn't a definition and any definition that contains the word it is defining isn't acceptable either so 'anyone who says they are a woman' won't cut the mustard.

As you know that TW are W you must be able to define W.

Soontobe60 · 02/05/2024 08:12

Mog65 · 01/05/2024 21:00

Trans women are women and trans men are men. Perhaps everyone should just live their own life.

You’ve convinced me!

Itsabeautufulday · 02/05/2024 08:09

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I like your terminology.

Perhaps it should be women, men and were-women and were-men. It would save all the them, they, zee, zen, panoramic sexually unexcited, and the rest of the alphabet soup, just 4 terms.

TheEyesOfLucyJordon · 02/05/2024 08:09

Mog65 · 01/05/2024 21:00

Trans women are women and trans men are men. Perhaps everyone should just live their own life.

Who told you that?

I'm a princess from Outer Rurartania. If you send me £1000, I can free up the millions trapped in my country. I'll share with you. Presumably you believe that shite too? 🤦

Caravaggiouch · 02/05/2024 08:06

ValueAddedTaxonomy · 02/05/2024 08:02

Thank you @Caravaggiouch . I think I will take the plunge and vote for him, then. Silence on the subject is good enough when he has such constructive policies elsewhere. It is also an opportunity to cast a vote against Labour's high-handed centralism, which had him blocked as a Labouf candidate. And against Labour's failures across the board.

He seems to be quite pragmatic and not at all tribal which is what I was worried about since he came up initially as a Momentum member. He’s worked well with a Conservative Leader in Northumberland and a very non-Corbynite Mayor in North Tyneside and I think is reasonably well-respected by the business community.

SinnerBoy · 02/05/2024 08:05

ValueAddedTaxonomy · Today 08:02

Thank you Caravaggiouch . I think I will take the plunge and vote for him, then.

I think I will vote for him too, based on what Caravaggiouch has said.

Itsabeautufulday · 02/05/2024 08:05

Mog65 · 01/05/2024 21:00

Trans women are women and trans men are men. Perhaps everyone should just live their own life.

But they're not. Biological facts are important no matter how much you say your mantra

SinnerBoy · 02/05/2024 08:03

AutumnCrow · Today 00:08

Transubstantifuckingation, mate.

😂

ValueAddedTaxonomy · 02/05/2024 08:02

Thank you @Caravaggiouch . I think I will take the plunge and vote for him, then. Silence on the subject is good enough when he has such constructive policies elsewhere. It is also an opportunity to cast a vote against Labour's high-handed centralism, which had him blocked as a Labouf candidate. And against Labour's failures across the board.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 02/05/2024 08:00

A few were saying that. Must responses were ‘no you wouldn’t soto being so melodramatic’

bolderthan · 02/05/2024 07:59

IW said on Twitter last night that they'd die at the scene of their illness or injury if they weren't permitted to use a female ward.
Sounds like reasonable, healthy adult behaviour. 😲😲

HoneyButterPopcorn · 02/05/2024 07:57

NotTerfNorCis · 01/05/2024 20:55

India is one of those TRAs who've been calling for more direct action for the cause.

https://twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1785585799817199905?t=PQYOKjacRIY5tOcHISDG0w&s=19

Been awake since 9am yesterday - full 24 hrs without sleep. Still not tired. Stress I guess. Feel we have to do something. We’ve been too ‘nice’ and laid back. GCs meanwhile just lie, lie, lie on an industrial level. Demo? Protest? Disruption? 🏳️‍⚧️ DM.

‘Nice’? I must’ve missed that.

Caravaggiouch · 02/05/2024 07:51

I’ve never seen him (or the previous combined authority organisation) express any views either way on this issue. I have contact with a number of their staff professionally and have never noticed any pronouns in emails, trans day of visibility LinkedIn posts etc. Absolutely nothing in any of the election literature or hustings.

ValueAddedTaxonomy · 02/05/2024 07:46

Does anyone have any concrete info on Driscoll's stance on trans issues? I'm in the area for this mayoral election and he is the candidate I want to vote for; but I don't feel confident about voting for him without some assurance on this issue, so am considering just spoiling my ballot paper.
(We also have a police commissioner election and I emailed my prefered candidate but got no response to ask her view on collecting crime data by sex but got not response. Hate the thought of not being able to vote.

HelenaWaiting · 02/05/2024 07:37

Bromelain · 02/05/2024 07:32

I think it’s just that IW is voting against Labour. Jamie Driscoll hasn’t said anything controversial as far as I know, he’s just the opposing candidate.

Spot on. India and India's cervix are very annoyed with Labour. I won't go into details since the many annoyances that India experiences are myriad, ever-changing and nonsensical.

Bromelain · 02/05/2024 07:32

I think it’s just that IW is voting against Labour. Jamie Driscoll hasn’t said anything controversial as far as I know, he’s just the opposing candidate.

WarriorN · 02/05/2024 07:02

• I’m also a White Ribbon Ambassador, and have made the North of Tyne a White Ribbon organisation. This is the campaign to get men to take a stand against other men who use, excuse, or remain silent about men’s violence against women.

WarriorN · 02/05/2024 07:00

It's a two horse race. Weird IW has as the other horse has 100% said twaw. Completely thrown women under the bus.

As she's Labour perhaps IW thinks Labour will end up not so twaw and so Kim will follow? 🤷

Jaime has listened to women and just sat on the fence a bit not wishing to nail his colours either way.

ILikeDungs · 02/05/2024 00:14

I wonder if there is a TRA drinking game that uses FWR: post something hoping for lots of replies, a drink per each. Most replies wins. How else to explain that cultish mantra in all it's glory?

AutumnCrow · 02/05/2024 00:08

Transubstantifuckingation, mate.