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Nidysheyzjsbsgwhw · 01/05/2024 18:00

OkPedro · 01/05/2024 17:59

Ah I see.. denying that transgenderism was a thing then is the same as denying the holocaust happened gotcha 👍
Do you enjoy bending the truth? actually don't answer that

Just say you don't understand what holocaust denial means 🤣

OkPedro · 01/05/2024 17:59

Nidysheyzjsbsgwhw · 01/05/2024 17:56

She didn't say it never happened. She downplayed how trans people were targeted by the nazi's - which is a form of holocaust denial.
her writing is also suspiciously anti-Semitic and has racist undertones....

Ah I see.. denying that transgenderism was a thing then is the same as denying the holocaust happened gotcha 👍
Do you enjoy bending the truth? actually don't answer that

ArcaneWireless · 01/05/2024 17:59

It's ironic isn't it, how when I present a view point that doesn't align with your views you become aggressive and unable to form an intelligent or reasoned response, just resort to aggression.

And pray tell what is reasoned or intelligent about Kinda like what you lot love to moan that trans people do......?

Sweeping statements and resorting to goading is as bad.

Away you go with your ‘you lot’.

IamMala · 01/05/2024 17:59

How fascinating! Now I only need to know his thoughts about the Middle East and Ukraine and I will fill truly educated

Nidysheyzjsbsgwhw · 01/05/2024 17:58

IDoNotConsentToAstonResearch · 01/05/2024 17:56

Yes I know lots of daft people who haven’t looked at what she has actually said believe she’s awful.
I would have said people like you repeating ridiculous guff about her being a holocaust denier is more of a distraction, but then the people who parrot that stuff aren’t doing a very good job of looking like they care about women’s rights.

Ah of course, everyone who doesn't believe exactly what you believe is daft and just a parrot, no critical thinking skills at all!
Or perhaps, the issue is more nuanced and it is possible to be GC whilst not agreeing with every problematic thing JK decides to say / tweet

Nidysheyzjsbsgwhw · 01/05/2024 17:56

OkPedro · 01/05/2024 17:55

I've never heard this before. Where in public has JKR denied the holocaust happened?

She didn't say it never happened. She downplayed how trans people were targeted by the nazi's - which is a form of holocaust denial.
her writing is also suspiciously anti-Semitic and has racist undertones....

IDoNotConsentToAstonResearch · 01/05/2024 17:56

Nidysheyzjsbsgwhw · 01/05/2024 17:51

I mean you can dismiss my viewpoint like that if you want. But I'm not an outlier, the opinion that she is awful is widespread. And any meaningful conversation to protect women's rights / women's spaces won't happen with her leading the movement. Her awfulness is a distraction from the actual issues 🤷🏻‍♀️

Yes I know lots of daft people who haven’t looked at what she has actually said believe she’s awful.
I would have said people like you repeating ridiculous guff about her being a holocaust denier is more of a distraction, but then the people who parrot that stuff aren’t doing a very good job of looking like they care about women’s rights.

SabreIsMyFave · 01/05/2024 17:55

I thought he would have grown out of this pathetic shitty woke phase by now tbh. What a 🤡

OkPedro · 01/05/2024 17:55

Nidysheyzjsbsgwhw · 01/05/2024 17:31

I really don't think JK is a very good example of someone fighting for women's rights, I mean she literally was engaging in holocaust denial....

I've never heard this before. Where in public has JKR denied the holocaust happened?

Nidysheyzjsbsgwhw · 01/05/2024 17:51

IDoNotConsentToAstonResearch · 01/05/2024 17:49

Honestly if you’re so easily manipulated that you buy that thing about her being a Holocaust denier I don’t think it matters how you believe she comes across.

I mean you can dismiss my viewpoint like that if you want. But I'm not an outlier, the opinion that she is awful is widespread. And any meaningful conversation to protect women's rights / women's spaces won't happen with her leading the movement. Her awfulness is a distraction from the actual issues 🤷🏻‍♀️

IDoNotConsentToAstonResearch · 01/05/2024 17:49

Nidysheyzjsbsgwhw · 01/05/2024 17:43

You're so desperate for someone to get behind but she's is not a good example at all. It's like an obsession with her at this point. She doesn't come across as pro-women, she comes across as anti-trans. It's different.

Honestly if you’re so easily manipulated that you buy that thing about her being a Holocaust denier I don’t think it matters how you believe she comes across.

Nidysheyzjsbsgwhw · 01/05/2024 17:48

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It's ironic isn't it, how when I present a view point that doesn't align with your views you become aggressive and unable to form an intelligent or reasoned response, just resort to aggression. Kinda like what you lot love to moan that trans people do......

IWilloBeACervix · 01/05/2024 17:47

I do feel a bit sorry for the Harry Potter actors, as they were bound to be hounded for an opinion when all this kicked off.

The way that Radcliffe went off to those idiots at the Trevor Project as a way to absolve him of any sin is pathetic and shows that he really hasn’t given JKRs writing on this any consideration.

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You're so desperate for someone to get behind but she's is not a good example at all. It's like an obsession with her at this point. She doesn't come across as pro-women, she comes across as anti-trans. It's different.

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 01/05/2024 17:38

Nidysheyzjsbsgwhw · 01/05/2024 17:31

I really don't think JK is a very good example of someone fighting for women's rights, I mean she literally was engaging in holocaust denial....

Yeah she literally wasn’t

Nidysheyzjsbsgwhw · 01/05/2024 17:31

I really don't think JK is a very good example of someone fighting for women's rights, I mean she literally was engaging in holocaust denial....

Floisme · 01/05/2024 17:22

I get the impression (from the Atlantic article - I can't see what Rolling Stone have said) that the journalist might have been hoping to (re)ignite hostilities between Radcliffe and JKR.

In fact JKR declined the chance to comment and the only new quote the journalist seems to have got out of Radcliffe is:
“I will continue to support the rights of all LGBTQ people, and have no further comment than that.”

I suspect this led to the interviewer digging around for some old quotes.

I'm not a fan of Radcliffe and I agree with @YukNo YukNo that he's always had the option of disagreeing with JK while condemning condemning the abuse. But I'm also unimpressed with this journalist who I think has created confusion because they failed to get what they wanted.

Editing to say I may well be wrong about some of the other quotes but I've read the whole article a couple of times and I'm unclear about what's new and what isn't - and I don't respect writers who create this kind of confusion.

JKRJHBKJK · 01/05/2024 17:05

Man doesn't give a toss about women or girls, I'm shocked...

Not.

It's a tale as old as time.

SmudgeButt · 01/05/2024 17:04

sorry but i can't look at a picture of him and not wish he'd get rid of those caterpillar eye brows.

PriOn1 · 01/05/2024 16:56

Here is the bit where I would consider he is doubling down, not on his stance on transgenderism, but in disrespecting Jo.

.“It makes me really sad, ultimately,” he says, “because I do look at the person that I met, the times that we met, and the books that she wrote, and the world that she created, and all of that is to me so deeply empathic.”

He is so caught up inside himself that I don’t think it’s crossed his mind that Jo has seen something he has missed. He is implying she is no longer empathetic, failing entirely to understand that her current stance is empathetic to the group she considers are losing out, i.e. women. I think his mind is so tightly shut that he can’t even see there’s a conflict of rights.

But it’s obvious from the wider interview that his life is incredibly blinkered. I can’t really imagine what it does to your brain to grow up outside the real world the rest of us inhabit. He also conflates the current situation with the gay people who inhabited his world when he was a child. How many famous actors now have “transed” their children? I suspect he is in a famous actor bubble, where Jo is not.

But it’s incredibly sad if he can’t see that it isn’t Jo and her empathy that’s changed. It’s the political climate and the unreasonable demands that are being made. It would appear he doesn’t have the imagination or insight to consider whether there’s any possibility it might be him that’s wrong.

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 01/05/2024 16:55

OkPedro · 01/05/2024 16:01

I had no idea that rolling stone was captured too 😒 I'd be hauling them through court if I was JKR

If you want to spend an evening experiencing your jaw dropping to the floor, you should look into some of some of the Rolling Stone's lead stories over the past few years. Too busy rolling to stop to think about anything, it seems!

BonnyBo · 01/05/2024 16:40

I haven’t seen anything with him in it but I thought his performance in Equus was well received?

I agree that his acting ability, workload and the fact that JKR propelled him to fame is irrelevant. He just seems ill-informed, and although he is entitled to an opinion, he comes across as being wilfully blind to the effects of gender ideology on women and children. And regardless of their different age perspectives, it seems a shame he hasn’t been able to say that the abuse JKR receives is terrible.

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