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Are you voting in the next general election purely on the transgender issue?

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TeacherAnonymous123 · 30/04/2024 12:54

Just as the title says really! Is that your only thought about who you'll vote for, or will you look at wider policies? Been getting lots of information through my letter box recently, and none mention it.

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AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 22/05/2024 17:11

5pm announcement then.
A bit late now.
Just waiting.
Demonstrations apparently outside Downing Street.

AstonsDataThief · 22/05/2024 16:08

Are the Tories giving up on trying to improve their standing over the next few months? Frustratingly it does mean some potentially promising rhetoric around schools/cass/politicised civil service etc will not lead to anything. The problem with campaigning on it is though it might be a vote winner, if Labour win anyway they might try to spin it that voters disagreed with the Tories on this.

I really hope they launched an independent inquiry into gender ideology first.

Wherewerewerewear · 22/05/2024 16:02

Def July 4th..

And I definitely won’t be voting for Labour.

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 22/05/2024 15:46

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 22/05/2024 15:43

Yes loads running to no10
Diaries cancelled, etc

Think there’ll be a date v soon

June 4th maybe? Someone mentioned that somewhere else

Oops yes I meant July 4th

AutumnCrow · 22/05/2024 15:45

Sunak giggled in the Commons that he'd already said 'there will be an election in the second half of this year' but that could be any date on or after July 1st, in theory?

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 22/05/2024 15:43

Desecratedcoconut · 22/05/2024 15:41

Ooh, they're all being called back to the hive. .. interesting.

Yes loads running to no10
Diaries cancelled, etc

Think there’ll be a date v soon

June 4th maybe? Someone mentioned that somewhere else

Desecratedcoconut · 22/05/2024 15:42

But odd though, you'd think they'd leave it until the BOE reduces the base rate?

Desecratedcoconut · 22/05/2024 15:41

Ooh, they're all being called back to the hive. .. interesting.

AGovernmentOfLawsNotOfMen · 22/05/2024 15:29

Just wondering if we re going to get the election date announced imminently.

MPs being called to no 10.
Cameron has had to cut his trip short in Albania to rush back

Signalbox · 21/05/2024 14:08

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/05/2024 13:08

Is your current MP very senior in the government, by any chance?

Ha ha no chance. He’s completely pointless.

EasternStandard · 21/05/2024 13:22

Ereyraa · 21/05/2024 13:19

The fact that discussions are still stuck at the ‘what IS a woman?’ stage is so depressing.

I think they genuinely just hope we give up.

Ffs ikr

How about asking some questions we’ve been asking for about a year or two

Ereyraa · 21/05/2024 13:19

Brainworm · 21/05/2024 13:02

Sheila Fogarty is going to discuss Labour's idea of what is a woman at 3pm today on LBC

The fact that discussions are still stuck at the ‘what IS a woman?’ stage is so depressing.

I think they genuinely just hope we give up.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/05/2024 13:10

Brainworm · 21/05/2024 13:02

Sheila Fogarty is going to discuss Labour's idea of what is a woman at 3pm today on LBC

That sounds like fun.

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MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/05/2024 13:08

Signalbox · 21/05/2024 13:01

I’m in exactly the same position. Shifting boundaries could change everything!

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Is your current MP very senior in the government, by any chance?

Brainworm · 21/05/2024 13:02

Sheila Fogarty is going to discuss Labour's idea of what is a woman at 3pm today on LBC

Signalbox · 21/05/2024 13:01

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/05/2024 12:03

Who are you planning to vote for, out of interest?

I think Labour are woeful on women's rights, but to my dismay, the Lib Dems and the Greens are even worse.

I don't want to vote Tory and was planning to spoil my ballot but it has occurred to me that although where I vote is usually a Tory safe seat, due to boundary changes there's an outside chance the Lib Dems might get in, and I really don't want that.

I’m in exactly the same position. Shifting boundaries could change everything!

Signalbox · 21/05/2024 12:50

PhDinaseive · 20/05/2024 23:37

There's been several posts on the merits of spoiling ballots or not voting. I suspect some are those who love it when women's voices aren't heard

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Who has talked about “the merits” of spoiling ballots? All I’ve seen is some posters saying they don’t know who to vote for and they are considering spoiling their ballot. It is an entirely personal decision.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/05/2024 12:03

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 21/05/2024 09:41

Late to the thread. I’m GC but trans isn’t top of the agenda for me (but I am factoring it in). I just can’t bring myself to vote for labour, much as I want to, because of this plus other things - I just don’t think Starmer is strong enough. Intelligent enough yes, but he lacks the strength of character I think we need. I also don’t think labour’s ideology is realistic in the U.K. in 2024 - we are no longer a wealthy country able to hand out money with abandon.

Who are you planning to vote for, out of interest?

I think Labour are woeful on women's rights, but to my dismay, the Lib Dems and the Greens are even worse.

I don't want to vote Tory and was planning to spoil my ballot but it has occurred to me that although where I vote is usually a Tory safe seat, due to boundary changes there's an outside chance the Lib Dems might get in, and I really don't want that.

Nellieinthebarn · 21/05/2024 11:07

If there is a Party of Women candidate I will vote for them. But I cannot vote Tory, there is to much history of them causing misery, and current misery, for me to vote for them.

While there are undoubtedly a few good eggs in the Tory Party, I believe they are too far and few between to make any difference to the fundamentally morally corrupt majority.

Whatever happens nationally this area will get a Tory MP, quite frankly they could shave a monkey, put it in a suit with shiny shoes, and it would still get in with a huge majority.

PhDinaseive · 21/05/2024 10:59

Vote Tory or Party of women. That's it most Tories listen and Sunak is actually in the centre. If women's rights are important that's who you have to vote for. Unless your candidate is openly pro women's rights . I'd vote for Rosie Duffield who is labour for instance. If you don't vote for the party or MP who is pro women's rights, labour will never get the message or change.

Nellieinthebarn · 21/05/2024 10:53

PhDinaseive · 20/05/2024 23:37

There's been several posts on the merits of spoiling ballots or not voting. I suspect some are those who love it when women's voices aren't heard

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I'd bloody love for my voice to be heard, and I've informed my (Tory) MP to make them known.

However, who do you suggest I vote for? I am broadly left wing, but not the new gender woo believing nonsense. I am a feminist, but not when that means that men are allowed to invade womens safe spaces and steal their prizes and rights.

I lived through the Thatcher years, I raised money for the miners strike, I paid 14% interest on my mortgage and had to work 3 jobs so as not to lose my house. This is why I cannot bring myself to vote Tory, but who else can I vote for?

I'm not being flippant when I say I might spoil my ballot, I would REALLY love to have someone I can, in all conscience, give my vote to.

TempestTost · 21/05/2024 10:47

PhDinaseive · 20/05/2024 23:37

There's been several posts on the merits of spoiling ballots or not voting. I suspect some are those who love it when women's voices aren't heard

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Or maybe they are women who think spoiling ballots can be a reasonable option in some cases.

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 21/05/2024 09:41

Late to the thread. I’m GC but trans isn’t top of the agenda for me (but I am factoring it in). I just can’t bring myself to vote for labour, much as I want to, because of this plus other things - I just don’t think Starmer is strong enough. Intelligent enough yes, but he lacks the strength of character I think we need. I also don’t think labour’s ideology is realistic in the U.K. in 2024 - we are no longer a wealthy country able to hand out money with abandon.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/05/2024 09:34

PhDinaseive · 20/05/2024 23:37

There's been several posts on the merits of spoiling ballots or not voting. I suspect some are those who love it when women's voices aren't heard

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So who are women who want their voices to be heard supposed to vote for when none of the candidates are listening to their views?

PhDinaseive · 20/05/2024 23:37

There's been several posts on the merits of spoiling ballots or not voting. I suspect some are those who love it when women's voices aren't heard

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