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Are you voting in the next general election purely on the transgender issue?

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TeacherAnonymous123 · 30/04/2024 12:54

Just as the title says really! Is that your only thought about who you'll vote for, or will you look at wider policies? Been getting lots of information through my letter box recently, and none mention it.

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SometimesIDowonder · 30/04/2024 13:22

No. How can we be ignoring the fact that people are left waiting hours for ambulances?

HermioneWeasley · 30/04/2024 13:21

Yes

SnapdragonToadflax · 30/04/2024 13:21

No. The Tories fuck over women in a plethora of ways, the trans issue is a drop in the ocean.

Also I strongly suspect most senior Labour MPs are secretly supportive of GC beliefs but want to win an election. Which is fair enough, as they can't do anything in opposition.

MadameDeLaRue · 30/04/2024 13:20

Absolutely not.

Though it's an extremely important social issue, it's being weaponised by the fundamentally anti-woman Tories to get some votes. I think it's pathetic that so many are falling for it.

ringoffiire · 30/04/2024 13:20

Mariannas · 30/04/2024 13:18

I think we need to bear in mind that this shit show happened under a Tory government

This.

I think people forget that we currently have a Tory government.

Are they doing what you want them to do on transgender issues?

Because I don't get the impression that they are.

At least Labour might make some improvements to public services.

ManonDe · 30/04/2024 13:20

I am not voting Labour (despite being a former member!) on many many issues- not just this. This to me makes them unvotable for.

But I am so disappointed and angry with all the parties.

Igmum · 30/04/2024 13:19

Yes. I've been a single issue voter on this for some years now. In the past have spoiled my ballot (wrote a suffragette slogan) and managed to find a small leftie party that actually was GC.

On the bright side, doorstep conversations are getting better - even before Cass which must surely have an impact. In 2019 I had a (white, male, probably 40s) Labour canvasser scream at me over and over again "TWAW, TWAW" - I had expressed softly spoken concerns about male bodied rapists in women's jails. This time round I had a lovely conversation with a Labour canvasser who reckoned he didn't know much about it (possibly true, looked retired) but said I gave him food for thought.

There's a long way to go to protect vulnerable women and children.

SirChenjins · 30/04/2024 13:19

lifeinthelastlane · 30/04/2024 13:16

Thing is, any party who will not unequivocally define women as adult human females is going to waste both time and money on making changes to existing legislation that allow for self id. And this takes them away from time and money spent on those important issues such as welfare the nhs and the environment.

Exactly this.

We've had years of a non-Tory Govt up here and they have spent so much time and effort focusing on trans issues to the detriment of everything else. Be careful what you wish for.

Mariannas · 30/04/2024 13:18

I think we need to bear in mind that this shit show happened under a Tory government

TheValueOfEverything · 30/04/2024 13:17

No. It’s important but top issues for me including public access to quality education, rebuilding the NHS, public transport, foreign policy, and above all the environment.

This issue will not be resolved in one election, it will take years to unpick and settle and socialise. I do intend to continue to be an active voice for women’s sex based rights and would bring it up with any political candidate who rings my doorbell along with those other issues but it’s not the first thing I’d raise.

ArabellaScott · 30/04/2024 13:17

MultiPolarista · 30/04/2024 13:02

Yep.
There is nothing between the parties economically or socially except this issue and as I am in the 51% of people who will have their rights stripped, yes, yes I am def voting Tory on this issue.

Which is novel for a hard core leftist, but hay ho.

There is nothing between the parties economically or socially except this issue

Very good point.

lifeinthelastlane · 30/04/2024 13:16

Thing is, any party who will not unequivocally define women as adult human females is going to waste both time and money on making changes to existing legislation that allow for self id. And this takes them away from time and money spent on those important issues such as welfare the nhs and the environment.

ArabellaScott · 30/04/2024 13:16

Yes.

If someone can lie about whether humans can change sex or not, they are either an idiot, a coward, or both. I can't vote for someone who is unable to be clear on the issue, or willing to allow children to be harmed because they haven't the guts to be clear and speak up.

Peonies12 · 30/04/2024 13:16

Of course not. Imagine voting based on politically rhetoric around another minority and marginalised group. There are so many issues that effect the majority of people.

Cazpar · 30/04/2024 13:14

Comefromaway · 30/04/2024 13:05

NO, whilst it is important to me other issues are much more important (like education, healthcare and the economy)

Same.

It's important, but my priorities are properly funding the NHS and our education system, security of housing, environmental policies, our agricultural industry, the cost of living and wider economy etc.

Quiestvous · 30/04/2024 13:12

No way. Environment, NHS, social care are so much more important.

lifeinthelastlane · 30/04/2024 13:12

I want parties to put all this ridiculous vagueness to bed, make it clear that the equality act will be enforced and that women are able to access genuinely female spaces when needed.
Soon as they get that cleared up I can go on to look at their other policies.

BovrilMartini · 30/04/2024 13:11

I’m unsure in the general election but I will be in the local Police and Crime Commissioner election.

I wrote to all 4 candidates asking about Gender identity. Lib Dem and Labour didn’t reply. Plaid sent loads of chat but didn’t answer the questions. The Conservative said it has no place in policing and he will ensure that sex is accurately recorded. So he’s getting my vote

Which considering I used to be a member of the Labour Party I’m a bit sad about

stealthninjamum · 30/04/2024 13:11

For the first time ever I deliberately didnt vote in the last elections because I just couldn’t vote Lib Dem. I jcan’t vote Labour until Keir Starmer unequivocally states what a woman is. I have autistic daughters, many of their friends are trans and most likely neurodivergent too. It makes me sick that the Tories have let these children down through lack of mental health support - but at least they won’t be giving them puberty blockers now. Honestly if you care about vulnerable children I don’t believe there is a party that will help them.

ScrapeMyArse · 30/04/2024 13:11

Torn between vote spoiling in the hope of sending a message about needing a proper socialist party; voting labour in the hope they're seeing sense; and voting labour in order to prevent lib dem / labour coalition which IMO is a worse prospect for women's rights.

And it's women's rights I'm interested in, not transgender issues. No party should be promoting one faith based belief over another.

Women's rights which intersect with a fuck tonne of key issues including the energy crisis, climate change, NHS, children's rights, childcare, prison reform, crime, employment discrimination, mental health, SEN, refugees etc. All very well to do as we are socialised to do and put our concerns last, but we've tried taking our rights for granted and they've been revoked on the say so of powerful men.

ARichtGoodDram · 30/04/2024 13:10

No. I have two disabled children. One won’t live to adulthood, but one has. The decimation of health and support services, and the constant attacks on the welfare state mean I wouldn’t vote Tory no matter their stance on this

I also don’t believe they’d do anything more useful than any other party on that issue anyway. They’re simply jumping on it last minute in the desperate hope people will forget everything else they’ve done and focus on that. The are not the friend of women, they’ve shown that repeatedly over their tenure. That hasn’t changed.

IDontHateRainbows · 30/04/2024 13:09

No
No point being recognized as a woman if you are dead from lack of decent healthcare

QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse · 30/04/2024 13:07

No because as a single Mum who needs benefits for various reasons I cannot vote Tory.

lifeinthelastlane · 30/04/2024 13:06

Yes I will.

SirChenjins · 30/04/2024 13:06

Yes - because our Scottish Govt have focussed on this issue far more than any other and I'm absolutely sick of it.