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Are you voting in the next general election purely on the transgender issue?

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TeacherAnonymous123 · 30/04/2024 12:54

Just as the title says really! Is that your only thought about who you'll vote for, or will you look at wider policies? Been getting lots of information through my letter box recently, and none mention it.

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AutumnCrow · 30/04/2024 16:22

DialSquare · 30/04/2024 15:48

Only ever voted Labour but not anymore. Won't be voting Tory either. Had a leaflet from an independent through the door today who looks promising. Will email him to ask his opinion on women's rights.

I know this thread is about how we would vote in a General Election, but I think you're right, @DialSquare, to ask candidates for the local Council wards questions. It's looking like a close run contest in my ward with (reportedly) a low return rate of postal votes with only two days to go.

Elected Members of the Council become 'corporate parents' and it's very relevant to ask them about their attitudes toward children's safeguarding, for example. I wonder if some of them have heard of the Cass Report, let alone read it.

wpalfhal · 30/04/2024 16:21

No, I couldn't be so self indulgent. There are a lot of people relying on getting this godforsaken government OUT.

TheValueOfEverything · 30/04/2024 16:20

ARichtGoodDram · 30/04/2024 16:02

I do think there should be a “none of the above” option on ballot papers so that we can see just how many people are politically homeless and choose to spoil, rather than them just being counted in with the people who make mistakes

And then what?

Who is going to step up and make your perfect political party then do all the hard work getting into power so they can govern?

Will you? Or are you sitting back wanting others to do the work for you?

I despair. Spoiling a ballot is exactly the same as not bothering to go and vote. Voting should be mandatory (like in Australia).

Desecratedcoconut · 30/04/2024 16:19

Funded by the religious right? If anyone on the religious right wants to fund a left leaning atheist who believes that sex is immutable, I'm amenable to a payout.

aberamagold · 30/04/2024 16:18

I certainly won’t vote for anyone who says some women have a penis, because that means they’re either an idiot or a coward.

I may have to vote Tory (for the first time in over 40 years), despite all the corruption and incompetence, if they are the only Party standing against the nonsense.

TammyOne · 30/04/2024 16:18

Definitely not. And I HATE my Labour MP , but I will vote for him ( whilst being a little bit sick in my mouth) and continue to harangue him on this issue, rather than vote for another Tory government.
People have died unnecessarily , and more will do so, due to this government, and voting for more of the same is a luxury option I’m afraid. The people I work with in the frontline public sector are on their knees. Something has to change.

LarkRiseSummer · 30/04/2024 16:17

ZeldaFighter · 30/04/2024 14:05

No, I'm voting Labour for other issues such as the economy, the NHS, local services....

You might want to take a look at how a labour government has been working for Wales (clue it's a shit show).

TheValueOfEverything · 30/04/2024 16:17

RebelliousCow · 30/04/2024 14:59

Because a vote has to have positive meaning, and I have to have integrity. I cannot vote for my local MP. Not only has she refused to meet with women in her constituency on the issue, but she is one of the biggest TRA activists in the party. You cannot vote for someone with whom you have a fundamental issue. Well, I can't anyway.

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A spoiled vote is still a vote.

You’re voting for the status quo because you refuse personally to compromise. So much for society.

ringoffiire · 30/04/2024 16:16

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 30/04/2024 16:09

I do have an opinion.

My opinion is that none of the people on my ballot paper are worthy of being elected to office.

So what should I do?

Spoil my ballot by voting for JK Rowling, or vote Tory to keep the Lib Dems out?

If you spoil your vote it won't stop any of those people being elected. One of them is going to be elected. Spoiling your ballot just means that your opinion won't count, and other people will decide.

AstonsDataThief · 30/04/2024 16:16

BonfireLady · 30/04/2024 16:09

For me, any manifesto promises to support the NHS in this way fall in to the "it aligns with what we want to do, we didn't have access to all the figures and we've now realised that we can't" bucket.
It might work well as a slogan on a bus though...🙃

Though since the ‘bus’, the amount spent on the NHS has increase by about double the amount stipulated in that slogan.

The NHS is a money pit.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 30/04/2024 16:16

Soooo is this thread on Twitter or fb yet to prove that FWR is full of evil right wingers who are funded by the religious right?

Desecratedcoconut · 30/04/2024 16:14

The finger wagging on this thread is off the chart.

If people want to spoil their vote then they are free to do so.

Annasoror · 30/04/2024 16:13

No. I am voting for whoever stands the greatest chance of getting the Tories out. The country is on its knees. There is nothing, nothing, that isn't a lot worse than it was in 2010.

StaunchMomma · 30/04/2024 16:12

No. My priority is preservation of the NHS and other essential services..

BonfireLady · 30/04/2024 16:09

AstonsDataThief · 30/04/2024 16:05

at least Labour stand a chance of bringing back the NHS from the brink of destruction

How do they intend to do that? The NHS are still paying back over £2 billion per year for PFI Labour put in place when they were last in power?

For me, any manifesto promises to support the NHS in this way fall in to the "it aligns with what we want to do, we didn't have access to all the figures and we've now realised that we can't" bucket.
It might work well as a slogan on a bus though...🙃

NamechangeForthisquestion1 · 30/04/2024 16:09

It should be illegal not to vote. For gods sake please use your vote.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 30/04/2024 16:09

ringoffiire · 30/04/2024 16:02

I'm not 'looking for' any answer at all - the worst thing is when people spoil their vote or don't vote. If you have an opinion, whatever it is, then vote. If you spoil your vote/ don't vote, then you are effectively silent.

I don't buy the 'I spoiled my vote to make a point' argument. Spoiling a ballot is marginally better than not voting - but not by much.

I do have an opinion.

My opinion is that none of the people on my ballot paper are worthy of being elected to office.

So what should I do?

Spoil my ballot by voting for JK Rowling, or vote Tory to keep the Lib Dems out?

commonsense12 · 30/04/2024 16:08

Lostmum1906 · 30/04/2024 13:25

Yes, I feel the Tories will get the economy back on track and the trans issue is a big deal to me.

You know they have been in power for a long time right

RedToothBrush · 30/04/2024 16:06

ARichtGoodDram · 30/04/2024 16:02

I do think there should be a “none of the above” option on ballot papers so that we can see just how many people are politically homeless and choose to spoil, rather than them just being counted in with the people who make mistakes

I'm with you on this.

Lengokengo · 30/04/2024 16:06

No. Because the Tories have set fire to the country. I wouldn’t vote for Dawn Butler due to this issue, but fortunately she’s not my MP.

rkahic · 30/04/2024 16:05

It’s so far down my personal list of priorities it definitely wouldn’t be something that got my vote

AstonsDataThief · 30/04/2024 16:05

at least Labour stand a chance of bringing back the NHS from the brink of destruction

How do they intend to do that? The NHS are still paying back over £2 billion per year for PFI Labour put in place when they were last in power?

ARichtGoodDram · 30/04/2024 16:02

I do think there should be a “none of the above” option on ballot papers so that we can see just how many people are politically homeless and choose to spoil, rather than them just being counted in with the people who make mistakes

ringoffiire · 30/04/2024 16:02

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 30/04/2024 15:52

Labour can't win in my constituency, it's between the Tories and the Lib Dems.

I'd like to spoil my ballot because I don't want either of them to win, but it's actually getting to the point where I am considering voting Tory for the first time ever because I think the Lib Dems are worse than the Tories and I want as few of them in the House of Commons as possible.

I have voted for them in 3 out of the last 5 general elections.

Sorry that's not the answer you appear to be looking for.

I'm not 'looking for' any answer at all - the worst thing is when people spoil their vote or don't vote. If you have an opinion, whatever it is, then vote. If you spoil your vote/ don't vote, then you are effectively silent.

I don't buy the 'I spoiled my vote to make a point' argument. Spoiling a ballot is marginally better than not voting - but not by much.

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/04/2024 16:01

userlotsanumbers · 30/04/2024 15:12

Lifetime Labour voter here preparing to vote Tory (feels so strange!) because I can't risk Labour facilitating this ideology to make further inroads into women's and girls rights.

So you've voted for Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party twice, but this time you're voting Tory? Even though you will have no idea what they'll do?🤯

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