Are you voting in the next general election purely on the transgender issue?

Yes plus VAT on private school fees - against!

Re what I said here
ScrollingLeaves · Today 10:50

Yes there is evidence and there was a recent thread discussing it I think I remember, though it might have been within a thread. I could look later but need to go now. Meanwhile perhaps another poster might be able to help.

So in your opinion, the Welsh people, many of whom have moved from England for various reasons are thick and stupid as they keep on voting for Labour.

20mph limits? oh yes they'd be the ones that everyone likes in their street or village as residents but hate them when out driving?

The Welsh Govt is making adjustments to these, correctly so, we ve got then in Cornwall too, no big deal and when driving around Par recently, i was pleased to respect the rights & safety of the residents in area around their athletics track.

Put any group of people together for a common cause and they will argue, same as with ALL political parties, don't know what point you re trying to make here.

I think we can lay Brexit squarely at the feet of the Tories though, and that's not a worldwide phenomenon.

Do you think Labour party members give up their critical thinking faculties when they sign the direct debit for their subscription? There is massive dissent in Labour ranks — always has been, always will be. And quite rightly.

I'm guessing you have little experience of the tribal nature of voting in small semi-devolved nations that have the Westminster get-out available to them. I've been in meetings where people have argued that someone (most recently Jeremy Miles but there have been others) should be nominated/ in office because (and only because) they are 'proper Welsh', with both parents born in Wales and speaking Welsh at home. This isn't how you get the best person for any job.

A growing number of Labour party members are growing frustrated at seeing Labour in Wales tinkering with the deckchairs on the Titanic (20mph, self-ID, creating more seats in the Senedd for more grifters) while the ship is sinking.

A friend in another constituency has been told by his MS that Welsh Labour is only keeping up the transgender/ Gender Ideology nonsense because of pressure from Plaid, the party that Labour have to rely on if they want a majority in the Senedd. Like the Greens in Scotland, Plaid is wielding a disproportionate level of power that doesn't reflect the number of seats it holds. It's a disgrace that Welsh Labour is willing to sacrifice women's rights in order to maintain control of the Senedd.

It’s a TRA tactic to keep pushing it as ‘trans issues’

It gets much harder to deflect when it’s as you say,

plus safeguarding, dignity, fairness, privacy and generally not living in some Orwellian society

I agree , Liz was a twit. But, the last 14 yrs have been economically bliss, with low interest rates, full level of employment. The wars, Covid and supply chain issues are not due to this Government, they are a worldwide phenomena.

Do you the evidence they intend to do this? or is this your opinion?

As far as i'm aware, Labour haven't published their manifesto yet.

I'm struggling to see how much easier a GRC could be to get, bearing in mind they slashed the fee to £5 and opened many more clinics.

Exactly

Do any other marginalised groups get shamed for caring about their political representation?

You have put that perfectly.

Yes framing it as a ‘trans issue’ is not helpful to women, or children

The thing is though that the Conservatives at least began to backtrack and put the breaks on. The other major parties did not.

Thank goodness some Lords intervened with the Maternity bill and kept the word “Mother”.

Then Boris said March 2022
(Guardian quote):

At Wednesday’s PMQs, Boris Johnson told MPs that “we must recognise when people want to make a transition in their lives that they should be treated with the maximum possible generosity and respect” but added “when it comes to distinguishing between man and woman, the basic facts of biology remain overwhelmingly important”.

At the time, saying this was virtually taboo.

They paused the Ban Conversion Therapy Bill in regard to the T in LGBT because of legitimate concerns.

commissioned the Cass report.

closed the Tavistock

blocked Scottish self-ID.

Broached the subject of clarifying the word ‘sex’ in the Equality Act.

Kemi Badenoch has shown clear, informed understanding of the issues as related to women and children.

No. We need to get the Tories out, that’s my only motivation this election

Is Rwanda an unsafe country?

If you respect your Tory MP then why not vote for him? Labour are almost certain to win and we will need some good people in opposition.

I do think it is important we consider the candidates themselves regardless of the party they are a member of.

No, because its not 'the transgender issue', its the 'women being erased in law' issue.

My Tory MP is GC, and active in the constituency, to boot, but I loathe what the Tories are doing and despair for the NHS.
I wouldn't trust Labour, even if they announced a huge about face about women's issues. Also, I don't think they would do a lot more for the NHS than the Tories.
Other parties have bandwagon jumped on gender woo and suppression of free speech and rights.

No parties come across as having constructive long term plans for ensuring free speech, or health and social care, or doing anything about uncontrolled immigration, or the environment, or housing, or criminal justice.

I will probably end up writing “Respect my sex if you want my X” on the ballot paper.

You don't need to be sorry!

All component parts are impacted when there is a wider crisis. Individual countries obviously try to negotiate their own favourable terms or try to ameliorate other issues they face and relationships can become frayed; and that is certainly the case at present.But of course, what I'm mainly suggesting is that many issues we are facing in Britain are not unique to Britain, even if some are. All countries have their own particular issues.

It's the freedom to say 2+2=4

I’m not sure who posted this but it’s a better way to look at it than ‘trans issues’

I don’t want a society of Orwell meets McCarthy so I’ll vote against it

Women and children are harmed by it.

To add the GRA led to this and I can see Labour are still beholden

It's the freedom to say 2+2=4

That freedom has been under threat from the Tories for a number of years now. They wrote genderwoo into their Maternity Bill, then declared TWAW and TMAN at the Despatch Box. They're trying to declare Rwanda a Safe Country in law, regardless of facts and objective reality.

Scary precedents.

And Labour intend to make Gender Recognition Certificates much easier to get all the while knowing full well these certificates legally change a persons sex. So creating the 1% ( for the moment) of “women” who have a penis whom Keir Starmer talks about under the obfuscating, upside down phrase, “99% of women don’t have a penis” or “99% of women are biological”.

Labour also intends to remove the legal protection of spouses for married people getting a GRC - those poor people who entered a marriage contract with a person of one sex, only to be told they were not marrying that sex meaning their contract would be meaningless.

And they want women to vote Labour, Jesus wept!

Absolutely! I voted SNP all my life and I voted yes but I’m so glad that this happened and so thankful that we didn’t get independence, especially when I look at completely fecked up Ireland.

Again, why aren't you reframing this? It's not women's responsibility to vote for parties which don't respect our rights, just because you and others have decided the most important priority is to get the Tories out.

It is the responsibility of parties who are serious about getting the Tories out to take women's rights and child safeguarding seriously. Why aren't they? What the fuck is wrong with them?

So you are totally discounting the Tory commissioned Cass Report? The Tories immediately withdrew puberty blockers, they have ordered that the NHS and the prison service return to single sex, they have insisted that the police stop recording non crime hate incidents, they have insisted that official health and government literature return to sex based language. I think this indicates the direction they are travelling in while the Labour Party in Scotland has just voted down a bill to protect women’s sex based rights.