Are you voting in the next general election purely on the transgender issue?

I’m genuinely fascinated that women don’t rate their own personal safety, dignity and you know the entire redefinition of what women means away from “adult human female” to “adult human female and men with undefined lady feelings (that they can dip in and out of should they do wish)” important

men would not put up with this - which is why the definition & use of men isn’t up for discussion and women are “birthing people”

The French voting intentions are irrelevant.

No, the potential outcomes of Brexit were known from the outset by anyone with even a smidgen of understanding about how the EU works.

It's a rules based organisation.

Rule 1 of this rules based organisation is that in order to be part of the single market and customs union you have to accept free movement of goods, services, people and capital. These four freedoms are indivisible, you can't have some without the others.

Rule 2 is that there needs to be a border between any country which is inside and any country which is outside.

Everything else is window dressing.

If you understood these two rules it was obvious from the outset what potential outcomes would be possible.

It's not so much that the EU wanted to discourage others from leaving. It's the fact that their entire structure would collapse if they allowed even one country to be an exception to the rules in this way. There's literally no good reason why they would do that.

It’s about trans issues not Brexit.

No one wants to talk about Brexit which is why some with a strange axe to grind ( they usually don’t live in the U.K. btw) hijack other threads to bore us rigid.

It’s about trans issues not Brexit.

No one wants to talk about Brexit which is why some with a strange axe to grind ( they usually don’t live in the U.K. btw) hijack other threads to bore us rigid.

You don’t feel the safety of yourself and dds is an ‘important’ issue? Riggghhhhttt….

It’s about trans issues not Brexit.

No one wants to talk about Brexit which is why some with a strange axe to grind ( they usually don’t live in the U.K. btw) hijack other threads to bore us rigid.

No one can ever be certain, no.

But I'm not really seeing anything different now compared to previous years.

Macron is unpopular, for sure, but less unpopular than either of his predecessors.

No. I'm voting on more important issues.

It’s a long way off so who knows but I don’t think you can be certain on what will happen either

It's a political discussion. I'm discussing with you. PP was discussing politics.

you can't veto other people's thoughts on politics on a political thread because you don't like them. Certainly not 'derailing'.

They can start their own thread and not hijack someone else’s because they haven’t had therapy or whatever. This thread is not about Brexit. Stop derailing.

No. I'm voting on more important issues.

Yeah, there are polls. They're never reliable. They always indicate that this time really is the time Le Pen might actually win, and it never turns out to be true.

No idea what any polls are saying right now. It couldn't be less relevant given that the next presidential election is 3 years away and no one knows who will be running. All we know is that Macron isn't eligible to run again.

Surely you can’t say more than the pp just based on who you talk to

There must be polls? What do they say

You seem to mean that David Cameron did not set up a supermajority so that Remain would win? That's not very democratic and considered improper in the UK (ever since the Scots won a vote to have an Assembly in 1979 and did not get it because 40% of the electorate (not the turnout) did not vote for it - a piece of gerrymandering all objected to - so, all referendums work on the principle that the winner is 50%+1). There was no disinformation - not that anyone was listening since almost all voters had decided how they would vote years ago - and anyone who had been listening outside the London bubble would have known how much disaffection there was from the EU. A refenda can only have a Yes/No answer, a three way split is impossible (and will favour the status quo, which may not be what the electorate wants). As for using underhand methods, the Remain campaign got an extra 9M in funding from the supposedly neutral government in the form of a leaflet urging us to vote Remain - I'd call that gerrymandering if I was not polite.
NB Liddington's reference to voter turnout was to the 1979 Scottish referendum. A voter turnout bill would never have got through Parliament - everyone thought it unfair and, as he implied, it is all about making sure the status quo/answer the government wants is certain to be the result. Not democratic. (Where he got the idea no-one was going to act on the result I do not know. Cameron was clear that the result would be acted on, and (bar the undemocratic 1979 Scots referenda) all referenda have been acted on by the UK.)

They can start their own thread and not hijack someone else’s because they haven’t had therapy or whatever. This thread is not about Brexit. Stop derailing.

Brexit continues to affect the UK and Europe. Our relations with Europe will always affect us.

So yes, people do and will keep talking about it.

I've lived in France for almost a decade and will be voting in the next election.

The village where you have a holiday home is not what will determine the outcome of the election. (And many French people are very much grandes gueules when talking about who they are going to vote for; what they actually do in the privacy of the voting booth is a completely different story.)

It’s interesting to see the political developments in the EU and the huge swing to the far right. I feel relieved we are listening to our people in the U.K., and their fears, and responding with referendums and in a democratic way or we would be facing the same fate as France for example. Where it looks very likely Marine ke pen will win this time.

We are talking about trans issues.

No, I've moved on. I'm just pointing out that it is total nonsense to say that the UK electorate couldn't have been consulted on roughly how hard they wanted to be Brexited.

It was never all up for negotiation.

There was the hard version (with the tricky Irish border issue to sort out) or the soft version.