Hannah Kitching - Lib Dem Councillor

I haven't even got a response out of either of our PCC candidates for Thurs. Which is rude. How many emails do you think they get, given most people can't even be bothered to vote for them at all and those that do typically just vote for their usual party? Fuck all, I bet.

Edit: Sorry, off topic ranting.

Was she on the gin at the time of writing?

Isn't it odd how adhering to this ideology outs so many people as emotionally incontinent? Given running for public office requires some level of people skills, a grasp of complex issues along with the ability to listen and respond to the electorate, asking these questions is brilliant for exposing intolerant & inadequate candidates.

Embarrassed for her - surely any aspiring politician has to be able to state their position clearly and deal with awkward questions?

https://twitter.com/HannahK_LD

Get on her twitter

Cui bono?

She posted this on Twitter back in October 2021. She seems to think (or thought) that only 'cis men' are "the real perpetrators of violence against women".

Is it the school of thought that if 'real' transwomen aren't a threat to women, then any transwoman who is found guilty of a violent crime against a woman isn't a 'real' transwoman? Is that how Humza Yousaf could tell that Isla Bryson wasn't genuinely a transwoman?

Is it just sexual crimes that have the magical power of distinguishing between real transwomen and men who are 'at it'? It can't be all violent crimes because some natal women commit violent acts too.

And if the guilty person is therefore not a genuine transwoman, what are the implications for the courts/media using their preferred pronouns and any GRA certificate that they hold or apply for? Perhaps we need a third outcome in criminal trials: Not Guilty; Guilty; Guilty and therefore a Cis Man.

The Vonny in the email is the real name of Jean Hatchet, well known GC activist in the South Yorkshire area (it's her own screenshot, so I'm not giving anything away). If anyone isn't blocked by Hannah, perhaps they could ask her about the enormous donation (£1.5m?) made to the LibDems by Ferring Pharmaceuticals, who manufacture puberty blockers.

Unfortunately a Councillor local to me. She'd always appeared very up on local affairs too! She's lost my vote now and thinkshe's standing for South Yorkshire Mayor as well.

That's my mayoral election next week! Well, she's fucked it for my vote.

I see what you did there.

I am not in Hannah’s constituency, but I had a look at her Twitter account and discovered that one of her supporters is a Lib Dem candidate on my ballot paper. And their Twitter indicates that they are another idiot not worth voting for.

Twitter is very useful at election time - much more info than you ever would get from a leaflet or a doorstep chat with the candidates. It’s astonishing that they don’t seem to realise this.

On the plus side, when the most ardent proponents of this silly fad are middle aged Lib Dem councillors, you know it's nearly over.

seriously? penistone - you're having a laugh right?

I like to believe her surname is pronounced like the sound an old fashioned till makes.

On thread, what a disgraceful response. Disagreement is fine, rudeness is typical of tras not acceptable in an elected representative.

They really are a disgrace. Liberty and equality all the way unless you are a woman. Bness Ludford must be sick of them.

WTF. I'd be fuming if I received that response to perfectly legitimate questions. My contempt for people like her holds no bounds.

PhDinaseive · Today 16:54

If she's standing for public office she should be able to cope with questions from constituents. She really shouldn't be insulting the public.

Well, just entirely, she shouldn't be so nasty and dismissive towards a constituent. She doesn't seem to be a member of the Reality Based Community, does she? I wonder if any complaint can be made about her and her sneering reply?

If nothing else, I wonder if HelloWorld68 should forward the exchange to the Daily Mail? This sort of thing is catnip to them.

I have a (very) small modicum of sympathy for people like this. Unlike the rest of us, these people are at a major disadvantage by virtue of believing batshit mental stuff. This means their awareness of, and relationship to reality is tangential, at best. Added to which they have had things entirely their own way since, forever, so to suddenly discover that the gig is up and apart from the fully certified nobody is buying the Koolaid any more. This must a dreadful shock to them and will take time to digest and take on board. Poor lambs.

Yikes!

Oh well.

DS1 is a lib dem member and is active in the party (although he is GC). He agrees with most of their policies (mores than he agrees with the conservative or labour position) but not their stance on gender ideology. He says its incredibly difficult since if someone asked him the question his understanding is that he has to repeat the party's position. It is very much not his personal position. I told him he should probably say "the party's position is x. My personal view is y" but he thinks he would be asked to leave the party if he did this. I suspect he's not the only person who feels like this.

This woman is doubling down though and has clearly abandoned critical thought..

That's Miriam Cates constituency.

Her response is so arrogant and condescending! LibDems and Greens are totally captured by gender ideology, no woman or man who respects women should vote for either of these parties. Absolute disgrace!