Gender neutral toilets

To help men realise it isn't good for them...

Compare the queue for nake and female toilets. It takes women longer. You can also fit more more urinals in the same space as cubicles.

So they are just creating more time waiting for themselves when they could be doing important Man Things.

I’m glad this is being highlighted about the enclosed toilet.
i thought I was going mad. Was in a busy London bar which had recently reopened all three toilets ( mixed use) were enclosed in a very tight space. My immediate thoughts were how do you know if someone gets trapped or forced in to the toilet.
As someone who has been followed into a toilet before. Needless to say I will not be frequenting this bar again. As I don’t consider the toilets safe n a drinking environment.

I've posted before about my experiences n Stockholm in mixed sex lavatories in public buildings.

There was an enormous queue including immediately outside the cubicle doors. The doors were not floor to ceiling, nor were they US style short slatted doors; but there felt like very little privacy with the gaps at the top and bottom being fairly pronounced. This was not a great situation for dealing with menopausal flooding. Nor was it great for the woman who had to leave the door open with her baby's pram in it while she assisted her toddler. She told me that she usually had to wait to pee herself until she was home.

Given the numbers of people of both sexes it was probably safe enough when busy, but zero privacy or dignity .

Great response

And now I know what tree of the day means, had no idea

I know there are some countries that have mixed sex toilets and have had them for years. I think I read somewhere that having mixed sex toilets all the way from childhood to adulthood normalises it and men behave respectfully in this context. That may be true ( am sure a psychologist could explain) but the fact is this country hasn't had mixed sex toilets and if you suddenly introduce them you introduce problems.

I think in the UK we separate the sexes at about age 4. If you want to introduce mixed sex toilets you would have to do it slowly and carefully. Even then I am sure there could be issues. I suspect design would be important too.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mixed-sex-wards-breach-nhs-streeting-b2534608.html

If Labour recognise that mixed sex wards are not right, hopefully they will recognise the problems with toilets next.

He's always been a total prick, why would you expect him to change?

Womanofcustard · Yesterday 13:36

Remember Iraq and the Dodgy Dossier?

That's exactly what I said to him on Twatter.

Excellent. There speaks a wise man with a wife and 2 teenage daughters.

That’s the first time I’ve seen the AC tweet. What an absolute bell end. No surprises, he has always been one. I expect nothing else.

Mild mannered Dan Walker has chipped in

Is there any mileage in requiring cubicle doors to open outward? I realise that might require more space in the basin area, but recently a lot of toilets are almost impossible to enter or exit as the door almost touches the bowl as it opens.

@MissLucyEyelesbarrow and with her being young she is probably a bit clueless. Whilst I am used to it after many many years I know if I had a choice I would prefer single sex and I suspect most men would too.

I’ve read a lot of comments on here saying ‘basically I think he’s (AC) a good bloke’.
Remember Iraq and the Dodgy Dossier?

I was so pissed off about that Insta post that I commented. Don’t think it’ll make any difference but I think it’s important for people to see the reaction in the comments.

Pretty embarrassing for a bloke if he gets an erection in swimming trunks. It's easy to label all men as pervs, but both men and women can feel strong sexual attraction if suddenly confronted by someone attractive and semi-nude. Women have the advantage of it not being obvious to onlookers. And, if she was school-age and he is an adult, he was no doubt also conscious of the inappropriateness.

I have just been for a swim and I was walking behind a young teenager wrapped in a towel and no swimsuit underneath (most of us leave our swimsuits on in the shower and remove in the more private cubicle). Approaching us was a young man who reacted in a shocked way to the teenager. He looked uncomfortable. It's the first time I thought - men don't like this either.

@MissLucyEyelesbarrow yes article in the other week where he’s praising maya , JK etc

Is he? I gave up reading the New European, because it was such a sausage-fest, and studiously ignored women's rights issues.

What thread?

Campbell’s co editor of the New European, Matthew D’ancona, is good on this though, so at least he has someone in his network speaking truth.

Strangely enough I was listening to one of the first episodes of TRiH last night and JKR was mentioned in relation to the 17thc witchhunts. It was said that she was a good example of what happened to women who dare speak out of turn (think this was from 2020)

I think some commentators are more concerned about being seen to follow the latest fashionable view in their elite media circles than protecting women and girls. I don't understand those either who think they can't express a different viewpoint to their kids, so what if you don't agree on everything, nobody does.

So disappointed as his lack thought on this subject, as be has waded in with no attempt to see this from a woman's perspective. It also questions his thinking on other issues. I've unsubscribed/unfollowed.

I have a theory that many of the male commentators like AC that support gender ideology do so because they have opinionated daughters in their 30’s. Daughters that have not yet become mothers and are privately educated and london elite based.
They bow down to their daughters opinions on this matter - see also Jonathan Ross- and yes I agree when the daughters change their minds they will too.
this phenomenon happens to women with adult daughters too - see Jane Garvey a- but not as profound as they know about navigating life as a female and I bet much prefer single sex loos!