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Screamingabdabz · 24/04/2024 23:03

Yeah funny how people were willing to burn witches first then bother to do their homework… I know we should be pathetically grateful at these statements but I’m still bitter about the absolute refusal to listen to women in the first place.

illinivich · 24/04/2024 23:02

At the time of writing that response, I didn’t have any direct experience of this topic and took advice on how best to respond, given the complexities surrounding individual cases. Having now spoken to experts and professionals, like many, my understanding has evolved.

Is she doing a Nandy and blaming advisors?

MrWarmth · 24/04/2024 23:00

Both Labour and the Tories know the majority of people in this country are not pro trans, so whatever they believe behind closed doors, they will become more gender critical as the general election comes closer.

I don't care if they're not sincere, our children need to be protected.

LoobiJee · 24/04/2024 22:57

The article includes this context……

It comes after Wes Streeting, the shadow health secretary, said he had been wrong to use the phrase “trans women are women, get over it”.

His U-turn came in the wake of the Cass review, which found that much gender medicine was built on shaky foundations and warned against the use of puberty blockers for children and young people.

Ms Keegan’s remarks followed Whitehall concern that she has not been strong enough, as Education Secretary, in standing up to the influence of trans rights activists in schools.

LoobiJee · 24/04/2024 22:55

A few quotes……,

has said she will no longer use the phrase “trans women are women”, explaining that her understanding of the issue has “evolved”.

In 2020, in response to a question from an LGBT+ forum in her Chichester constituency, the Education Secretary made the statement that “trans women are women”, adding that trans people should have equal access to “safe spaces”.
Trans women are women and trans people deserve equal and fair access to health care, safe spaces and opportunities, as well as to live their life with dignity.”

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But she told The Telegraph: “Since becoming an MP and later a minister I have learnt a huge amount more about this complex and challenging subject.

At the time of writing that response, I didn’t have any direct experience of this topic and took advice on how best to respond, given the complexities surrounding individual cases. Having now spoken to experts and professionals, like many, my understanding has evolved.

“I have since been crystal clear about my concerns that women are being erased in this debate, and have always been clear that women do not have, nor have ever had, a penis.”

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In December, Ms Keegan published draft trans guidance for schools, which said pupils should only be allowed to change pronouns in rare circumstances and parents should be consulted on their child’s wishes to change their gender identity.

There are concerns in Whitehall that Ms Keegan may water it down in response to negative comments. There are also worries that the Department for Education’s long-awaited relationships and sex education guidance for schools has still not been published.

Crankywiddershins · 24/04/2024 22:52

Can't do a share token but those chickens are coming home to roost.