A thread for the ferrets

She did lie then. You can’t just say ‘whoopsy my bad’. She is supposed to be an honest person.

Good to see unequivocal statements about women and women's rights. I'm glad that Gillian Keegan changed her mind.

Rather weird digs at Victoria Atkins, though. So what if she met and talked to Stonewall? Lobby groups are entitled to promote their cause. What should not then happen is what seems to have happened with Stonewall's MPs contacts - ie the MPs suspended critical thinking and surrendered decision-making to the lobby group. And they spoke only to Stonewall. As an MP and even more as a minister, what you should do is listen to a range of views, and then make up your own mind.

I think that there will be a lot of people, post Cass, who say “I was misled/I didn’t have all the info” who will change their tune, but as they’ve spent so long slagging off feminists for pointing all this out they will feel unable to accept they are the same as the majority of posters here now. So they will point out that of course it’s wrong to give unevidenced medication to minors- absolute common sense- but those TERFs and bigots over there were only ever using this as an excuse for their hatred of trans people, it’s just coincidence they were right and it can’t possibly be that any animosity towards TRAs and lobbyists is out of anger towards their cavalier attitude towards children’s health. It’s just lucky for them they accidentally were right, not like me, I’ve only ever been in this for all our trademarked Lovely Trans Friends and our Little Trans Kiddos in our constituencies etc etc blah do fucking blah.

There was a whiff of this on the Private Eye podcast that touched on puberty blockers. “I am clever and can see this is terrible, you on the other hand are fortunate that the evidence justifies your horrible bigotry.”

Its all a bit “I’m still right side of history, you’re still the baddies.”

Years ago on here someone posted that when things start to crumble the feminists will still be blamed. They were not wrong.

I feel a bit mean putting this here, Gillian Keegan's ferret seems to have reversed a little while ago. But I don't want to start a new thread so

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/04/24/gillian-keegan-will-stop-saying-trans-women-are-women/

https://archive.ph/Ta5m4

I do find the headline rather comical.

Well doesn't that make Wes sound like an absolute weasel excellent prime ministerial candidate?

Nobel bloody prize! All the BEs. Is she a Dame? 'Cos there's nothing like a. Gold medal at Chelsea. Cycling proficiency. All those buttons that YouTube sends out. 1 billion tesco club card points. Best in show. And a mug with 'World's Best' then a blank space so she can write whatever she wants.

Shurely

'We are sorry that we don't employ anyone who can read a clinically informed report, despite the fact that we campaign among other things on health care issues. This and our biases caused us to do kneejerk briefings to decision makers, misleading the legislature. Our poor work meant that Dr Cass had to spend additional time following her 4 year review to stop us doing further damage.

We are reflecting now on our approach to this and are considering whether to move our campaigning to other issues, such as international partnerships with NGOs working in countries where being gay or gender non-conforming, never mind marrying someone you love of the same sex, is illegal'.

Well doesn't that make Wes sound like an absolute weasel excellent prime ministerial candidate?

Dr Cass would make an excellent candidate for woman of the year.

Dawn Butler is never going to get a ministerial post under any sane leadership.
So her best self-interested bet is to keep the GLAAD shillings coming.

Wes Streeting, on the other hand, has the air of someone who has been dreaming of being PM since he was nine. He still has greasy poles to climb. Once it was by black listing feminists, then it was making hitlists of Labour Party TERFs to expel, and now it’s by backing evidence-based medicine.

Do we know that Butler made that apology/statement off her own bat?

Apparently ferrets can suffer from motion sickness 😥

This fascinates me too! She must be an absolute powerhouse- she picks up the phone, organises meetings with those organisations who have disparaged her report and within hours they are issuing sorry ma’am, yes ma’am, we will correct the record immediately ma’am tweets.

The woman is a bloody force of nature. I am so, so impressed.