Gay Men's Network Cass Response: Public Inquiry now.

Thank you x

Thanks Dennis. Unfortunately, perhaps unsurprisingly, MN aren't going out of their way to make users aware.

Thank you @DennisNoelKavanaghOffTwitter

Any chance of a bit of pro bono advice for Justine, Dennis ?

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@DennisNoelKavanaghOffTwitter Hi Dennis. Big fan of your work.

I'm just slightly hijacking this thread in case you're not aware that Aston University has scraped data from here (against MN terms of service) specifically for the purpose of a phd: "A corpus-assisted discourse analysis of linguistic transphobia on Mumsnet"

i.e. it's a PhD that seems to start from the conclusion that posters on here are transphobic, which seems pretty defamatory. Using data taken against MN terms and conditions and in breach of data protection law.

Their extremely flimsy argument for continuing to use this illegal data scrape - which MN now seems to be permitting, thus breaking the terms upon which all of us signed up - is that as posters are anonymous it's ok. Even though part of the purpose of their department is to take anonymous online posts of 'extremists' and try and identify them.

However as you are not anonymous I suspect their use of any of your posts in such a PhD would be defamatory, copyright infringement and a GDPR breach.

I thought you should know.

There are quite a lot of threads on this but the first/main ones are here:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5057460-a-corpus-assisted-discourse-analysis-of-linguistic-transphobia-on-mumsnet

Site stuff threads (where Mumsnet have commented, inadequately IMO)
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/5072884-corpus-2?page=14&reply=135821583

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/5057903-mumsnet-corpus

Thank you for that, the first link was blocked by my corporate computer.

Oh, so you do IT support in your spare time! Thank you!

This is great. Thanks.

Thanks, that worked.

If anyone is still having firewall problems, you may be able to access the full document through this rather long link.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/6200252604e9795287de2ada/t/66255982bdcb1c544e3047df/1713723780268/GMN+Response+Cass+Review.pdf

Thank you Dennis!!

The cliché of all movements turning 180 and eating themselves comes to mind. It's remarkable to see it happen. (Fawcett Society, WEP, Amnesty, Women's Budget Group—too many.)

It was the left, liberationist perspective and its support for PIE and eroding child safeguarding that almost succeeded in the 90s.

Despite the arc of history showing that these things are rarely settled, I wonder if as a society that embraced progress, there was an unquestioned assumption that these struggles would never need to be fought again?

All those clichés about liberty and freedom of conscience, speech and thought rarely being givens but ideas and principles that have to be sustained and for which a respect has to be taught for every generation…

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/21/salman-rushdie-warns-young-people-against-forgetting-value-of-free-speech

If somebody had told me ten years ago that a new and dreadful assault on gay and lesbian rights, and on basic tenets of child safeguarding, would come from the (self-styled) left, I wouldn't have believed it.

Dennis, you were fantastic in that interview with Andrew Doyle. Thank you for all you are doing to protect children. I will read the document you linked tonight. Your emphasis on child safeguarding is so important, and thank you for also standing for women.

Thanks Dennis. I wondered if it might be because of my broadband provider. I’ll try again when I’m using mobile data.

Fantastic interview and you are right. This is an absolute scandal. Vulnerable autistic, gay and lesbian and looked after children have been utterly failed.

Finally listened - great interviews with both you and Sarah Phillimore.

Thanks Dennis. I was cheering internally at everything you said. Great interview.

Thank you Dennis - a great interview. I hope the BBC will invite you on the Today programme (I know I know, don't hold my breath) - wonderful to see you speak so passionately about child safeguarding.

You are absolutely right, all the DEI employees and activists with their black tie dinners aren't the ones who'll end up in pain and with life long medical issues. There really needs to be accountability.

Thanks DNK. An excellent and articulate interview, and a presenter who also knows what he is talking about.
Thank you for speaking up and being a constant beacon throwing light upon this terrible scandal and the individuals within it.

(Also as the mother of a gay man, I'm personally very grateful to you for the work of the network.)

@WarriorN thanks for this, a letter will be on its way to my MP this week.
We’re dealing with the fall out on the front line at home, so this at least gives me something constructive to do about it.

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/resources-2/letter-templates/

The inquiry needs to be firmly shifted to focus on schools and those who are peddling the ideology to them.