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NHS trust compares women who want single-sex spaces to "racists"

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VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 21/04/2024 14:33

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/27444783/nhs-trust-women-sharing-loos-men-like-racism/

Sorry about it being The Sun.

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Forester1 · 21/04/2024 16:44

Rrg · 21/04/2024 16:38

I was recently sent to a mixed post surgical ward from HDU and my experience was shocking and very frightening.
During the night a male patient became threatening and violent, he was shouting ‘no women touch me’ when nurses tried to administer his medication. There were NO male nurses on duty on the ward and eventually after four petite nurses tried to restrain him ( he was trying to thump them) another patient stepped up, a big burly guy who was very calm and collected. The Rescuer was very apologetic to the nurses! Who knows what would have happened had he not acted. I am likely due more surgery soon and afraid because of this incident . When I went onto a ward last week, I noted the night shift changeover, yet again no male staff on a mixed ward.

That’s awful.

Rrg · 21/04/2024 16:38

I was recently sent to a mixed post surgical ward from HDU and my experience was shocking and very frightening.
During the night a male patient became threatening and violent, he was shouting ‘no women touch me’ when nurses tried to administer his medication. There were NO male nurses on duty on the ward and eventually after four petite nurses tried to restrain him ( he was trying to thump them) another patient stepped up, a big burly guy who was very calm and collected. The Rescuer was very apologetic to the nurses! Who knows what would have happened had he not acted. I am likely due more surgery soon and afraid because of this incident . When I went onto a ward last week, I noted the night shift changeover, yet again no male staff on a mixed ward.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 21/04/2024 16:37

Ingenieur · 21/04/2024 14:50

A spokesperson said: “We reaffirm our support and commitment to staff and patients of all backgrounds. As a Trust, our aim is to establish a fully inclusive environment, where discrimination on any grounds does not exist.

So it absolutely is their intention to eliminate single-sex provision. Charming, and a failure of their legal duty to accommodate single sex care.

They're discriminating against female people.

NonLinguisticRhetoricIsMyKryptonite · 21/04/2024 16:35

RoyalCorgi · 21/04/2024 14:57

A spokesperson said: “We reaffirm our support and commitment to staff and patients of all backgrounds. As a Trust, our aim is to establish a fully inclusive environment, where discrimination on any grounds does not exist.

This is nonsense, of course, because they are discriminating against women who don't want to share space with men. They are also breaching the NHS's own commitment to provide single-sex provision.

Why do these trusts never seem to consider the bladder leash actions like this create for women of faith and from communities that wouldn't permit the mixing of the sexes in such a way (never mind the setting)?

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mumda · 21/04/2024 16:33

It was the Sun what won it.

Red tops gets it out there.

GoldViper · 21/04/2024 16:31

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Toseland · 21/04/2024 16:25

Oh just great - on top of being bigots and transphobes, now women are racists for wanting their spaces - thanks a lot Nancy Kelly, Stonewall's influence everywhere, and no Lesbians are not 'sexual racists' either!

SinnerBoy · 21/04/2024 15:16

They're including all staff and patients, well, except for the female ones. How can they mention staff first? Surely they should be patient centred? It certainly seems to me that they are pandering to their activist staff, first and foremost.

bluetopazlove · 21/04/2024 15:10

The problem comes from what I experienced when men don't particular care there is women there . They will just strip off anyway , they don't all care .

RoyalCorgi · 21/04/2024 14:57

A spokesperson said: “We reaffirm our support and commitment to staff and patients of all backgrounds. As a Trust, our aim is to establish a fully inclusive environment, where discrimination on any grounds does not exist.

This is nonsense, of course, because they are discriminating against women who don't want to share space with men. They are also breaching the NHS's own commitment to provide single-sex provision.

AnotherDayAnotherTorySleaze · 21/04/2024 14:51

Women and girls at the bottom of the pile yet again!

at least the Sun is covering it…

Ingenieur · 21/04/2024 14:50

A spokesperson said: “We reaffirm our support and commitment to staff and patients of all backgrounds. As a Trust, our aim is to establish a fully inclusive environment, where discrimination on any grounds does not exist.

So it absolutely is their intention to eliminate single-sex provision. Charming, and a failure of their legal duty to accommodate single sex care.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/04/2024 14:49

Typically tone deaf response from the hospital throwing away women and girl's rights to privacy and safety from men. But for once, a robust response from the Dept of Health.

Well done to James Esses & to the Sun who appear to be starting to report on all this like the Mail, Times and Telegraph.

Chersfrozenface · 21/04/2024 14:37

Actually, it's good that it"s in the Sun.

The red tops have been awfully quiet on this subject up until now.

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