NHS trust compares women who want single-sex spaces to "racists"

Why has the world become so complicated? A simple view would be if u have lady bits you go into the female category of care, if you have male then male category? If inbetween and transitioning then whatever parts are the most predominant? Hospital staff just want to get on with their jobs and treat patients. Xx

Whilst you have my every sympathy, I don't think what you experienced arose from being in a mixed sex ward. It arose from the tolerance and acceptance of anti-social behaviour from those in charge of and working in our hospitals. It's a question of basic standards and they are sadly lacking throughout the NHS. The people working in the NHS have lost the grip on normal, respectful conduct.

So this NHS trust, this public institution that WE pay for, has labelled 50 percent of its "customers" ,nay 50 percent of the public as racists.
How insulting. The government needs to get a grip and stop all this nonsense ASAP!!

I was right about the poly thing

Which is okay because it's not real discrimination - you have to have a penis but feel like you don't for it to be real.

They are only discriminating against the women that were born without a penis.

I believe this is written by one of Brown’s poly partners. (According to the Stonewall bio Brown started up ‘transdocfail’) I’ll need to check though. You can see all the ‘originals’ on this collection of tweets on the hashtag in the post. Brown talks bizarrely about having a gynaecologist…. I wonder what someone with nothing gynae about them would visit a gynaecologist for? 🫤 Also, when Challenor was ousted from the Green Party, Challenor joined the Lib Dem’s too iirc. https://www.complicity.co.uk/blog/2013/01/transdocfail-lowlight/

@NonLinguisticRhetoricIsMyKryptonite apologies, I missed that. Even more reason that I hope Rrg feels able to complain if she was on a mixed sex ward.

So glad The Sun has covered this. Shameful from this NHS Trust.

#let them speak.

SMS: HDU beds are commonly mixed and this breach is usually classed as 'justified' in NHS guidance.

My reading of Rrg is that she was sent to the mixed ward from HDU not that she was in HDU at the time.

I was recently sent to a mixed post surgical ward from HDU and my experience was shocking and very frightening.

@Rrg I'm sorry you had such a scary experience.

HDU beds are commonly mixed and this breach is usually classed as 'justified' in NHS guidance.

There quite often are no male nurses (or any male staff) in some wards so that can raise issues around single sex care as it is not always able to be accommodated for a male.

If the nurses needed to physically restrain the shouting man, it sounds as if he may have had post-operative delirium, but obviously, I can only speculate. However, a medic should have been contacted (there should be one in the near vicinity of an HDU area) and the trust security team. I would definitely report this experience if it was recent, as it sounds like this incident might need further looking into (or it might have already been reported, and they may be able to explain what steps have been put in place for the future).

I hope that your recovery is going well and I'm sorry that you need further treatment

It's disgraceful but the sexism within the NHS is systemic. The hospitals under my local trust call men to their appointments as Mr John Smith; women as Jane Smith. Men are afforded the courtesy of their title(s) and women aren't. Therefore at the most basic level women are treated less favourably than men. I challenge it every time and every time I get the NHS eyeroll.

Notwithstanding the fact that almost every Dr introduces themselves with their title and assumes they may use my first name. When I have asked their first name, they have often been palpably shocked. I have heard the same consultants and nurses refer to a man as "hello Mr Smith, how are you today, Sir! Equality my foot.

St George's, St Helier and Epsom Hospitals.

During the night a male patient became threatening and violent, he was shouting ‘no women touch me’ when nurses tried to administer his medication.

It doesn't diminish the danger posed but, depending on age and condition*, it's not implausible that he was also reacting in (post-surgical) delirium as well as a preference for male nurses for his care.

"incidence ranges from 9% to 87% depending on both the patient population and the degree of operative stress*"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2546478/

I wonder if it is part of the legacy of the charming councillor whose actions led to Ann Sinnott’s resignation.

https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/cambridge-transgender-toilets-ann-sinnott-14975106

Who was also on Stonewall’s Trans Advisory Board.

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20180816020010/www.stonewall.org.uk/trans-advisory-group" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20180816020010/www.stonewall.org.uk/trans-advisory-group

How much on a flag?! Massive misuse of funds that should be investigated

The comparison of gender critical people to racists is so bloody illogical- white/pink/brown/black people do not have completely different body parts to each other! One race is not significantly bigger and stronger, and also considerably more likely to commit violent crimes, than any other race! You are not comparing like with like, people!

A spokesperson said: “We reaffirm our support and commitment to staff and patients of all backgrounds. As a Trust, our aim is to establish a fully inclusive environment, where discrimination on any grounds does not exist.

There will be people within the trust who are paid to understand the law, patient safeguarding and patients rights.

They obviously aren't doing their job and need to go. Including the chef exec.

If they can't even met the basic criteria for the post, they are at best a waste of space, but likely wasting public money and a danger to patients. The only way to remove this ideology from public institutions is to remove those who are unable to do the job they are paid to do.

I'm so sorry @Rrg - its not suprising you are not apprehensive of future surgery. Have you reported this to PALS?

And they wonder why there's a nursing recruitment crisis. If only female nurses are going to be on a ward with men, they need security guards on tap to deal with restraint if needed to ensure safety for all.

I do consider it positive that the Sun is reporting on this. They do take the “common person” view so they probably wouldn’t report in this way if they didn’t think a majority of people agreed (however they vote)

Solidarity with anyone else who has to endure the Monday and Friday managerial "chit-chat" emails. No, I don't care that you're spending your weekend tending to your delphiniums and that you had an enriching and productive morning at the Little Tittington Toenail Crisis Centre - I want to know when our departing colleagues are going to be replaced and why we still have a fucking printer that speaks Korean after 2 years.

The disregard for women’s needs and disdain for their legitimate concerns and comfort is disgraceful.