HIGNFY dipping a toe in

Lets see if they touch it next week.

I should imagine it was too late. I think they record around lunchtime? Occasionally you see a breaking story being covered as a runner comes on with a message to the host/it comes through their earpiece but I should imagine the story was too nebulous at that point to be covered.

Not a word about Scotland in yesterday's program or did it all kick off too late for a Thursday recording?

... And I know, golden bridge and all that. But unless you're crossing that bridge with a fucking apology on your lips I reserve the right to think you're a wanker who's just done a better job of seeing the wind change.

Reading Hislop's message to Glinner... Dear lord, what a patronising, sexist twat. Literally couldn't even bother his arse and find out what the wims were so aerated about, he was that smugly sure it couldn't be important.

Him, Ronson, O'Brian, O'Briain, Goldacre... I fucking despise them all.

My favourite joke of all time was by Jo Brand back in the Friday Night Live days: "never trust a man with testicles". It's taken on a whole new dimension nowadays!

Hope you're right...but I thought the same about Kathy Burke 😞

Maybe Hislop is a secret MNer!

<waves>

Well, the times are definitely changing. Private Eye No 1622 has a full page "MD on GIDS and the Cass Report" with an excellent summary of Cass Report (sorry too much to summarise) Nothing new except the huge increase in referrals for assessment of neurodiversity. In my former CAMHS which I retired from 10 years ago..waiting lists are 8 years for neurodiversity and 14!!! years generally..the collapse of CAMHS (from cutbacks and bad management), a factor mentioned by Dr Cass.
Two further articles one about Maria Miller, Tory Chair of women and equalities select committee in 2016. It was enquiring on trans matters. "Although doctors told MPs the evidence base for adolescent transition was limited, the report nevertheless suggested "reducing the amount of time required for the assessment that service users must undergo before puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones can be prescribed. Her committee did not hear witnesses from any women's groups, saw little problem with putting trans women in women's jails and breezed past the genuine issue of long NHS waiting lists for transition care. Its flagship recommendation was gender self-ID which was Tory Party policy until 2020. The neighbouring article comments that Labour have changed their position and describes how the Greens taking a week to post a positive response and then deleting it as their alphabet soup group don't like it. The Lib Dem's deleted a negative response and have been silent ever since. Meanwhile the Scottish Greens and the SNP were hostile or claimed it didn't apply to them..pausing referrals for puberty blockers on 19th April.

Here you go:

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/ian-hislop-knew

Absolutely. Satire is brilliant when it skewers the powerful and corrupt. When it just mocks people who are easy targets, it’s worthless.

Where was this letter to Glinner?

Found it. It was in 29 March issue so pre Cass but post NHS announcement of discontinuing PBs.
Much a brief mention one gets the impression it's not something he is keen to explore or comment on but felt obliged to come up with something so a brief fence sitting Be Kind (and careful).

If he had had stronger views that might have influenced IH but it's clearly not a direction they wanted to take. As pp have said, trans ideology is so ripe for poking fun at its hard to understand why they would have given it a swerve. I think it goes back to their "Wimmin" column poking fun at Dworkin.
Their mindset anything related to women's rights hasn't changed since then.

I'm going to have to root through past copies of PE but the issue was briefly mentioned in a recent issue by the PE MD Phil Hammond and his stance was disappointing.

I'll go and look for it.

Ah! That will explain it 😂

That also helps to make sense of the positive comments about Armstrong on here - I just assumed it was because he was another host. I hadn't RTFT, as I wanted to see it first and then read the comments properly, but I saw his name as I skimmed through.

So that's two episodes where there were questions. That's a second toe in the water, which is encouraging. Hopefully we'll get a hole foot in soon 🤞

The Scotland hate crime one in the episode that I saw was received with lots of derisive laughter, which was great to see.

It’s got Armstrong hosting so I think you watched the wrong episode! It’s within the first few minutes.

Armstrong’s “now they’ve found a cure for cancer” is delivered casually but he knows what he’s doing. I will eat my hat if Jo doesn’t agree with him - she’s too astute and long in the tooth to play the virtue-signalling game.

I watched the extended 45 minute edition last night on iPlayer but didn't see/hear anything about the hospital and the 21 gender flags (I did catch the Scotland hate crime question). I actually watched it twice in the end - my husband came home from a night out, so we watched it together the second time. I thought Hannah Fry was great at hosting this time (a vast improvement from the previous time) and really enjoyed the show, so I didn't mind watching it the second time.

I wonder if it's only in the shorter 30 minute version? That would be odd but it's possible.

Can anyone remember when it was in the show?

Glad to see it. Pretty sure both Jo Brand and Alexander Armstrong are terfy. It's good to finally break the taboo. This subject is so ripe for ridicule and satire.

Twas good to hear. Hopefully the tide is turning

Yes. I liked that.

Whenever I hear of a famous man speaking out like this, I google to see who they’re married, as I assume they’re doing so because they value their wife’s opinion.

It's always been very much a boys' club. Sometimes a woman like Helen Lewis might be accepted as an honorary one of the boys.

HIGNFY is owned?/produced by Hat Trick Productions, which is the same organisation that produced Father Ted. Glinner has said that the Father Ted Musical rights are held by Hat Trick Productions which won't allow the musical to be produced. Presumably because of Glinner's views.

Quite.