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What is actually wrong with Labour?

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ArabellaScott · 19/04/2024 16:44

https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1781285090032509415

What is actually wrong with Labour?
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ChristinaXYZ · 19/04/2024 21:18

Tukmgru · 19/04/2024 19:23

This is a meme, and a pretty old one at that? Don’t really see the issue here…appreciated not everyone grew up online, as it were, but the ‘what is he thinking’ meme has been around for donkey’s years. The implication is that she thinks he’s thinking about other women, and he’s thinking about something else entirely etc etc. That’s the joke. Feel free to be outraged if you want at the portrayal of women as jealous or something, but honestly this isn’t the worst thing affecting women today.

If you don’t wanna vote labour, you don’t wanna vote labour. But if you change how you vote based on misinterpreting a pretty well known meme then we have other problems.

Political parties rarely pull off memes though - this is an entirely unfunny and somewhat embarrassing example, but misogynist it isn’t.

But they still leave it up knowing how many women are offended (and men on women's behalf too). If they'd used a meme that backfired and offended any other group would they have ignored the complaints? No. It's the same reason they haven't apologiused to Rosie Duffield. Labour just hate women.

ScreamingBeans · 19/04/2024 20:24

Floisme · 19/04/2024 19:40

I think the fact that some people seem think this is about us not understanding how memes work demonstrates the size of the problem.

Indeed. I expect the pornsick interns who posted it, assume the same thing.

We know nothing, we understand nothing. We have no sense of humour.

FGS. The stereotypes get wheeled out all the time because people aren't even aware they buy into them.

Plate24 · 19/04/2024 20:21

The original meme is more benignly and even-handedly sexist. The joke is that the woman is thinking about the relationship while the man is thinking about something ridiculous and trivial, like star wars or something uninformed about dinosaurs or the roman empire. Sometimes quite funny, although definitely stereotyping and overplayed. This is not that! This is saying women are thick as shit and men are deep. Yet so many men on twitter the same bloody age as me saying ‘hur the old women don’t get it cuz meme’.

OvaHere · 19/04/2024 20:14

LauderSyme · 19/04/2024 20:08

Self-ID is not Labour's policy.

In July 2023 Annaliese Dodds confirmed that a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria will remain a requirement to access a gender recognition certificate.

They also want to make getting a GRC as easy as buying a bus ticket.

So defacto Self ID.

Jux · 19/04/2024 20:12

And in real life that is the opposite of my dh and I. I'll be lying in bed thinking about brownfield site or how to afford the welfare state, and he'll be wondering if he''s got enough energy left for sex....

LauderSyme · 19/04/2024 20:08

Ofcourseshecan · 19/04/2024 19:40

Yay. Roll on the abolition of all women’s single-sex rights, aka gender self-ID.
😟

Self-ID is not Labour's policy.

In July 2023 Annaliese Dodds confirmed that a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria will remain a requirement to access a gender recognition certificate.

ArabellaScott · 19/04/2024 19:52

I've actually just today been discussing legislation relating tangentially to this topic, in which the man I was talking to made a lewd joke, which I was obliged to laugh off as to tell him to shove it up his arse would have been professionally Not the Done Thing.

This Shit Is What Women Have To Deal With Every Fucking Day You Fucking Creeps. GET TAE FUCK.

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Swashbuckled · 19/04/2024 19:43

Floisme · 19/04/2024 19:40

I think the fact that some people seem think this is about us not understanding how memes work demonstrates the size of the problem.

Absolutely!

AtrociousCircumstance · 19/04/2024 19:42

@LauderSyme So what, re cheating threads? People hate being cheated on. Women and men. Why does that excuse this shit? It doesn’t.

That’s like saying women are only interested in fluffy topics like fashion because of the existence of the Style and Beauty topic.

Ofcourseshecan · 19/04/2024 19:40

LauderSyme · 19/04/2024 19:33

Meanwhile, elsewhere on MN, "Is he cheating?" threads proliferate whilst others posters agree you may never get over a cheating ex....

I agree the meme is old and tired and Labour judged this badly.

BUT

The main thing wrong with Labour, given that they are realistically the only alternative to a Conservative government, is that they do not hold power yet.

Yay. Roll on the abolition of all women’s single-sex rights, aka gender self-ID.
😟

Floisme · 19/04/2024 19:40

I think the fact that some people seem think this is about us not understanding how memes work demonstrates the size of the problem.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 19/04/2024 19:37

AtrociousCircumstance · 19/04/2024 19:35

I think most posters get the intended ‘joke’, and recognise the meme. The issue is the representation of a woman obsessed with her man, and a man with larger concerns and independent thought. Pure misogyny. And the fact that this is being put forward by the labour party as something representative of them.

This! The meme was always wank playing on patriarchal tropes about women being insecure and jealous and men having Big Important Thoughts

it’s not funny and any political party that uses it clearly doesn’t understavd sexism

Swashbuckled · 19/04/2024 19:35

@Boiledbeetle

Thank you for your kind words.

I have vowed to twirl my hair around my finger, and practise my pretty little head tilt until it is just so, all evening and without guilt. I might even work on my giggles 🤭.

AtrociousCircumstance · 19/04/2024 19:35

Tukmgru · 19/04/2024 19:23

This is a meme, and a pretty old one at that? Don’t really see the issue here…appreciated not everyone grew up online, as it were, but the ‘what is he thinking’ meme has been around for donkey’s years. The implication is that she thinks he’s thinking about other women, and he’s thinking about something else entirely etc etc. That’s the joke. Feel free to be outraged if you want at the portrayal of women as jealous or something, but honestly this isn’t the worst thing affecting women today.

If you don’t wanna vote labour, you don’t wanna vote labour. But if you change how you vote based on misinterpreting a pretty well known meme then we have other problems.

Political parties rarely pull off memes though - this is an entirely unfunny and somewhat embarrassing example, but misogynist it isn’t.

I think most posters get the intended ‘joke’, and recognise the meme. The issue is the representation of a woman obsessed with her man, and a man with larger concerns and independent thought. Pure misogyny. And the fact that this is being put forward by the labour party as something representative of them.

LauderSyme · 19/04/2024 19:33

Meanwhile, elsewhere on MN, "Is he cheating?" threads proliferate whilst others posters agree you may never get over a cheating ex....

I agree the meme is old and tired and Labour judged this badly.

BUT

The main thing wrong with Labour, given that they are realistically the only alternative to a Conservative government, is that they do not hold power yet.

Boiledbeetle · 19/04/2024 19:29

Swashbuckled · 19/04/2024 19:24

@Boiledbeetle

I tried reading it, but I couldn't concentrate because I kept being distracted by the thought that my partner was thinking about other women...

Sorry 😔

Don't worry your pretty little head about it! You should be spending your time thinking of ways to keep your man happy and faithful to be honest not reading intellectual papers on the best way to sort out the contaminated ground on brownfield sites.

Swashbuckled · 19/04/2024 19:24

@Boiledbeetle

I tried reading it, but I couldn't concentrate because I kept being distracted by the thought that my partner was thinking about other women...

Sorry 😔

Floisme · 19/04/2024 19:23

MeMyselfAndMyEye · 19/04/2024 19:17

I actually find this really upsetting. I can't believe it is still up there.

Same, I've wasted half my afternoon because I kept going back to see if it had been taken down.

And to think I felt a tiny bit guilty after my 'full and frank discussion' with a Labour canvasser the other week.

Tukmgru · 19/04/2024 19:23

This is a meme, and a pretty old one at that? Don’t really see the issue here…appreciated not everyone grew up online, as it were, but the ‘what is he thinking’ meme has been around for donkey’s years. The implication is that she thinks he’s thinking about other women, and he’s thinking about something else entirely etc etc. That’s the joke. Feel free to be outraged if you want at the portrayal of women as jealous or something, but honestly this isn’t the worst thing affecting women today.

If you don’t wanna vote labour, you don’t wanna vote labour. But if you change how you vote based on misinterpreting a pretty well known meme then we have other problems.

Political parties rarely pull off memes though - this is an entirely unfunny and somewhat embarrassing example, but misogynist it isn’t.

AtrociousCircumstance · 19/04/2024 19:22

The comments reflect what a shitshow this is and loads of calls to take it down. Why is it still there?!

ScreamingBeans · 19/04/2024 19:22

This actually makes me want to cry.

Remember when Labour looked like it cared about I women? When "Blair's babes" changed the way parliament looked and they looked as though they were really trying to understand the different challenges that women faced that men didn't?

And now look at them. Impossible to vote for. Awful, awful men whose contempt for women just oozes through whenever the grown ups aren't around to keep them in check.

Boiledbeetle · 19/04/2024 19:20

Swashbuckled · 19/04/2024 19:15

Yeah, but you were really writing about whether your partner was thinking about other women, weren't you....?

I admit there was a hidden message in paragraph 3 on each page where I declared I lay in bed at night wondering if my partner was thinking about other women!

You've read it haven't you!

AtrociousCircumstance · 19/04/2024 19:20

What the fuck is wrong with these fucking morons?! Sexist memes? Wow they really disrespect women openly.

MeMyselfAndMyEye · 19/04/2024 19:19

The Labour Party are so bland so not to upset anybody.....except half the adult population apparently.

MeMyselfAndMyEye · 19/04/2024 19:17

I actually find this really upsetting. I can't believe it is still up there.

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