TRAs don’t want trans people to talk to journalists about DIY HRT… I wonder why?

I didn't see the particularly bad comment but the poster on this thread quoted me, commented about my supposed lack of knowledge on trans healthcare and asked me if I even cared about people's health

The post the poster made to the other poster was an instant ban post.

The post they made to you was not, it's not uncommon for people to post like that and usually it would be deleted in the morning, but not always.

The reason the post was hidden and then deleted so quickly was the post they made to Duchess.

@NotbloodyGivingupYet no, thankfully not chasing me around threads! The behaviour of that particular poster was being discussed afterwards and it transpired that they had been on multiple different threads (that I hadn't seen) at the same time.

@Ereshkigalangcleg I didn't see the particularly bad comment but the poster on this thread quoted me, commented about my supposed lack of knowledge on trans healthcare and asked me if I even cared about people's health. Obviously I knew it was a trolling post but I thought that provocation warranted a specific response, just to highlight how ridiculous that position is to take. It's a shame that the comments all got taken away in some ways, as Operation Let Them Speak is very helpful for any lurkers to get an idea of the "both sides toxicity".

This particular subject - about the black market side of "trans healthcare" seems to have hit quite a nerve. I guess there will be lots of people making lots of money from it.

I just had to find a pikachu video to see what the voice is like, 😂I was never that squeaky! But I can do a good Eartha Kitt impression now! (Or Bernard Manning on a bad day 😂)

Did you know Pikachu is a 58 year old woman?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikue_%C5%8Ctani

I am content with the knowledge that DH will never beat my pikachu impression.

I used to have a very high voice (and with my accent I sounded exactly like Julie Burchill!). Last year I had an operation on my thyroid that paralysed a vocal nerve and now I can't do high sounds at all. I bloody hate it! When I talk to my toddler grandchild I can't do that mimicking back that we naturally do to validate their speech, I can't sing her nursery songs because my voice is stone flat, I can't even make a proper questioning sound so everything I say sounds like a command. Worst of all I sound like a teenage girl on testosterone.

Revel in your squeaky voice, it has a million brilliant uses!

Sounds like a nice post and I'm sad I missed it. Back to my post that must have prompted this, where do we report people selling illegal drugs from the UK?

"Kids we've hooked on drugs, do not talk about your dealer and how you have been hooked on drugs. Otherwise the public might start asking difficult questions about your dealer and the effects of the drugs which are unregulated and unmonitored and how you might be irreversibly harmed by us drug dealers. Just say no!"

@DirtyDuchess

The TRA post that was posted late at night, reported, hidden fairly quickly by Nightwatch and deleted this morning by MN. I can't reproduce it here but it was a vile suggestion for what the poster thought you should do.

HRT is the wrong term for this. I am on HRT because I am a menopausal woman who needs to REPLACE the HORMONE my body is no longer making. So I whack an estrogen patch on my arse.

Men who think they would be happier as women are not replacing anything as their bodies never made it in the first place. They are choosing to use cross sex hormones. They are not using "DIY HRT".

What was directed at me @Ereshkigalangcleg ?

Welcome to the new series of Breaking Bad 😬😢

More like breaking bods sadly.

@Jimmyneutronsforehead I know someone in his 30s going through exactly that. Steroids may kill him. Even though he stopped taking them a while ago. Unlicensed, unprescribed drugs, used for cosmetic purposes are dangerous. And young people are notoriously bad at risk assessment. It behooves adults to protect them from these choices.

I'd wager that feeling like you're in a secret, special club that normal people couldn't possibly understand is a huge part of the appeal of this whole thing, for many.

It is, and many of them have a very simplistic view of the world themselves.

Although as it was written directly to me and about me, I'll add a more personal response to it (I didn't see any of the comments that have now been deleted but I got the gist from the responses that we were treated to a display of "both sides" "debate". How lovely.):

The really nasty post wasn't to you @BonfireLady it was to @DirtyDuchess

I've never heard of butch lesbians doing it, however in my youth I was a powerlifter, and it was commonplace to take steroids at the gym that I trained at. Me included.

It did make my features more masculine when I was taking them, so I don't think it's a leap that some butch lesbians may have had this bad advice and taken it.

Sadly, a few people I knew at that gym and within that circle passed away, coroner reports from thickened heart walls to exacerbating congenital issues. It put me off for life. I think really I made a lucky break.

I'm over a decade older now, and even though I was a young adult when I started taking steroids I feel like I was too immature to really understand what I was doing and I definitely searched for things to support confirmation bias.

It saddens me to see people basically looking to do the same thing for the imagery of it when I've seen the dangers of it.

I'd wager that feeling like you're in a secret, special club that normal people couldn't possibly understand is a huge part of the appeal of this whole thing, for many.

Just a thought, does anyone know any women who were hit by the HRT shortage a few years back [like myself] who for one second thought the best response would be...to make our own?

Utterly baffling.

FFS! I have significant voice dysmorphia myself but that would never occur to me? WTAF!

I missed what was said but at least the timing of it is instructive. Set it next to the misinformation peddled from the States about Cass and I think we are under no illusions as to the likely location and firm opposition to evidence based care for children.

What!? Someone is chasing you around MN threads?
I'm so sorry, it seems there's no limit to the depths some people will sink to.

Indeed.

Although as it was written directly to me and about me, I'll add a more personal response to it (I didn't see any of the comments that have now been deleted but I got the gist from the responses that we were treated to a display of "both sides" "debate". How lovely.):

1. I didn't add anything to the AMA thread because it was already very full and I have already previously had a very in depth discussion on MN with a transwoman where I was asking questions to increase my understanding from a perspective other than my own. After a lot of interesting discussion, that poster shared a revolting fantasy about nurses in women's prisons 🤢.. and, as it turned out, had been posting all over other threads, including the transwidows' support thread. But that's another story. Of course I care about people's health and welfare.
2. That comment shows incredible ignorance about the Cass Report and the irreversible damage that is being done to children and young people as a result of this worldwide medical experiment.

Given the battles that women are having trying to secure their own hrt for their own health issues, I don't think that this suggestion is going to elicit any more response than a hollow laugh.

It almost certainly is illegal. the anime card packaging is.

The MHRA is the regulator

One time I heard my voice on a recording and cringed at how squeaky it was compared with the voice of the other woman on the recording. I mentioned this in passing to someone in my pro-trans circles and he asked me if I'd ever considered taking T to make my voice deeper!

Does anyone else remember the female poster proudly declaring that many young butch lesbians now micro dosed with testosterone to achieve the look they were aiming for? I took it as exaggeration at the time, but even so, if even one female was doing this thinking it was harmless and just a cosmetic procedure it is so very harmful.