I would probably lose my job, Kirsty Allsopp

I agree. It'd not ok to joke about drowning a women just because you disagree with her.

I'm not a man. I'm a woman who don't think that it's healthy or acceptable to talk about murdering women because of what she puts on twitter. Violence against women is endemic. How is it funny or clever or even vaguely okay to say something like that poster did?

I'm paraphrasing JKR here, but it takes a lot more courage to stand up to your friends than it does to stand up to your enemies. If you're standing with someone who's talking about wanting to drown a woman, you really should speak up, whether you agree with that person on other issues or not.

Stand back ladies!

A man is here to tell us what’s wrong with our feminism.

Alongside the PP who insinuated that all women should agree with each other, otherwise we’re not one big happy sisterhood like that films tell us we should be.

Who are "the real feminists" then?

What an absolute melt.

And then her follow on comment about right wing groups.

I wonder how many times the Honourable Kirstie, daughter of 6th Baron Hindlip, "millennials can't buy houses because they fritter all their cash away on luxuries" Allsopp has actually voted for a left wing party.

Kirstie's pinned tweet is about Jonathan Haidt's latest book. Haidt is on record as saying that the large numbers of girls seeking to transition is due to social contagion. That, IIRK, is more or less JKR's position, which KA no doubt finds 'unkind'. Kirstie does not do joined up thinking. Or maybe men are allowed opinions that women aren't

x.com/kirstiemallsopp/status/1780721108167147852?s=46

Oh my God she's lost the plot. Championing Dylan Mulvaney!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think that most people don’t consider her relevant to be fair. That is why I don’t think people reacted.

So, therefore she has no real understanding and is not inclined to go and get that understanding, but now wishes to be relevant. Perhaps so she can say she expressed ‘doubts’ because she now sees where this is all headed.

https://twitter.com/kirstiemallsopp/status/1199397423208157186

Owen Jones and Kirstie Allsopp united? Have changed mind. Twitter does reconcile differences!!

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KA is happy to have all her tweets in the public domain. She says so herself.

https://twitter.com/KirstieMAllsopp/status/1779965494478385212

Here she is saying that we should debate with more humour.

I wonder , genuinely, why my post was removed. It linked a tweet that is currently available for all to see about Kirstie Allsopp's awful response to concerns regarding a young woman having a double mastectomy because she identifies as a trans man.

How is that against Talk Guidelines?

Kirstie A has waded into the debate with the same level of subtlety that she demonstrated when she physically smashed up her child’s IPad when he was becoming addicted to it. Unfortunately, while she got applauded by some for her ‘no-nonsense’ decisive parenting on that occasion - the same impulsive, not-really-well-thought-through approach to the trans gender issue doesn’t wash. Kirstie talks to everyone in the high-handed manner she talks to Phil on Location Location. She obviously hasn’t given a huge amount of thought to this issue and it obviously hasn’t touched her life in any meaningful way. She can get away with saying outrageous stuff I’m sure on set and the worse she’ll get is a bit of eye-rolling.

It would have been easy for JKR to accept the olive branch proffered. Kirstie is probably thinking JKR is a fellow wealthy woman of my ‘ilk’ - let’s go eat some cake in a posh cake shop and get over it - TOTALLY not realising the maelstrom JKR has stirred up and the seriousness of the Cass Review Self-ID etc… She’s blustered into the situation and thinks everything can be sorted by proverbially ‘knocking through a few walls’. Not so on this occasion Kirstie.

I think she’s a mother to strapping sons with names of Gods (Atlas? Horatio? Thor? Can’t remember exactly) - I’m sure if they’d approached her requesting that they change their name to Lolita and borrow her Boden dresses she’d have given them short shrift.

She’s now feeling affronted and perhaps slightly humiliated and is going on the offensive. She’s now full-on TWAW and has the joy of India Willoughby circling her for her allyship. Perhaps she can go to the Dorchester and eat cake with India instead - just remember to shave your legs Kirstie!

And JKR please don’t engage with her any further because you’re in danger of wasting energy and people might misconstrue it as just a ‘spat’. Your eloquence is pure gold on this issue - please save your battles - same goes for any engagement with India - it just makes them feel important and elevated and we don’t need that at all.

She's not very intelligent, frankly.

Her comments about millennials and property ownership made it perfectly clear that she's the kind of person who has been elevated to a position far beyond her natural competence thanks to money and connections.

How very feminist of you...

Anyone who can’t see Dylan for the shameless and obvious grifter Dylan is, is an absolute fucking idiot whose opinions can be safely dismissed.

This was JKR's response to KA saying no debate didn't exist.

"I'm astounded by this comment. One of the gender ideologues' favourite slogans is 'no debate'. Opponents have been attacked, vilified, subject to discipline at work, had their lives overturned and lost their careers, all for the crime of wanting a debate."

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1779920317730709990

I think last year Kirstie hopped into the debate being very TWAW (and fawning over Dylan!) but also admitting there may be a need for conversations about some issues (maybe prisons or was it sports?). She didn’t get particularly piled on by TRAs and I think she started to see herself as some kind of sensible saviour from the middle ground. However… Denying that you could always debate these issues is pure gaslighting. Look at all the court cases, the witch hunts, the threats, the cancellations and ruined livelihoods.

The trans debate has destroyed careers and damaged reputations. It’s left many ordinary people - not just celebrities - afraid for their jobs if they dare to say the wrong thing.

For Kirstie to be doubling down now, in the wake of the Cass review, is mind-boggling. I think she needs to take a long, hard look at everything that’s been going on these last few years. I don’t think she is very well informed at all.

Her ongoing response to this reminds me a lot of Philip Pullman, actually.

There's an initial, "Look at me, I'm such a reasonable person, not like those extremists on both sides" statement.

Pullman's was something along the lines of "explain the gender critical position to me" and hers is "it has always been possible to have a civilised conversation about this".

What follows is then a deluge of replies from both sides. The gender critical side explaining their point of view, i.e. explaining what gender critical beliefs are to Pullman and pointing out what has happened to women who tried to have a civilised debate to Allsop, and in both cases "don't engage with these horrible transphobes" from trans activists.

They then ignore/straw man everything said by those on the gender critical side and settle down to a cosy bitching session with the trans activists about the nasty transphobes.

Why was the post deleted which linked to Kirsties tweet to the mother whose daughter is about to have a mastectomy?

The entire conversation where she’s talking to Owen jones saying you need a sense of humour about these things… just astounding. I would link again but I don’t want a deletion black mark myself…

She also claims to have learnt so much from Dylan Mulvaney.

Others on this board, on X and JKR herself have done extensive research, reading books and articles, watching documentaries etc.
And she watched Dylan.
On TikTok I presume.

KA said something like ‘it’s always been possible to discuss this topic in a civil way and that is what people should do”

This is what she said

"But the point I was making is that it is, and always has been possible to debate these things and those saying there was no debate are wrong."

https://twitter.com/KirstieMAllsopp/status/1778799002793681392

She also had the cheek to say we were humourless!

I watched KJK yesterday and thought if she decided to give up letting women speak she could be very successful doing stand up comedy.