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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BBC Radio Scotland

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ArtfullyCrumpled · 19/04/2024 10:36

Shocking interview on BBC Radio Scotland this morning. . Interviewee passionate about stopping his 10-year-old daughter’s puberty after deciding she was a boy before she could talk.

It's shocking, it's gaslighting. Bbc should be safeguarding children. WTF?

Link to journalist on Twitter who captured it x.com/journalismseen/status/1781228440701550786?s=46

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Myalternate · 21/04/2024 00:18

One of my 3 year olds thinks there’s a monster under his bed 😟 it’s very real to him so he’ll get into his brother’s bed to protect him. (that’s his reasoning)
Children have such vivid imaginations as they’re trying to make sense and understand the world around them.
They’ve no concept of what is and isn’t real and as parents it is our role and responsibility to help and guide them till they’re mature enough to make sense of it all.

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 21/04/2024 00:14

If my dad could have transed me, he would’ve. He really didn’t rate women as fully human, and didn’t want daughters.

I hope this guy isn’t trying to ‘trade up’. Agree that the BBC shouldn’t be giving out this kind of message without any balance or evidence.

Also I assumed Pitta657 has a ‘trans’ child.

littlbrowndog · 20/04/2024 23:58

My 4 year old has a spidey teddy. It’s all spidey now. 🥰

Esgaroth · 20/04/2024 23:56

@wonderstuff Sorry your son couldn't be Spiderman, but I have to say I'm not surprised because my son is actually Spiderman. He says I'm the only one he's trusted with his secret identity but on an anonymous forum it's probably OK to tell. He is very clear on the point that he is not pretending to be Spiderman, he is Spiderman. Of course I am very honoured that he trusted me with his truth.

littlbrowndog · 20/04/2024 23:56

When will we get an an inquiry into why so many governments, public bodies , councils , and the rest of the them thought it was ok to sterilise and experiment on our children with no evidence

it kinda seems like the the experiments on children with blood products

yoteyak · 20/04/2024 23:50

Pitta567 · 20/04/2024 22:22

Do you think trans kids don’t exist?

Of course the answer to this depends on what you mean by "trans kid".

(That's obvious, no? -- Let's spell it out: If "trans kid" means "a child with three metre long arms", then, no, trans kids don't exist. If "trans kid" means "a boy in pink pyjamas" or "a girl wearing a blue nightdress", then, yes, trans kids certainly exist.)

So what do you mean by "trans kid", hmm, @Pitta567?

If by "trans kid" you mean "a child born with a girl's body who is actually a boy", then no, no such kids exist. If you mean "a girl whose parents wanted a boy", then, yes, such kids do exist. (Do you agree?)

There are different ideas about what a trans kid might be, don't you see, @Pitta567? So really your question as it stands can't be answered. Please try to say what you think a "trans kid" is, then you might begin to understand more about what's at stake here.

(Oh, and "monsters aren't real" you said earlier. Depends what you mean by "monster", again, of course. For instance some would say only a real monster would deliberately sterilise his daughter with off-license drugs at the age of ten. What d'you think?)

Sealtheenvelope · 20/04/2024 23:49

Pitta567 · 20/04/2024 22:00

That’s just your opinion. Others might say that children’s views should be respected especially if it’s causing them to be upset. You have absolutely no basis to say that the child was gaslit. Zero!
are you saying that children who are trans should not be taken seriously? Maybe you don’t know about the amount of trans kids that actually take their own lives

I respect my children's views. However I know that they are children, that one of my primary roles as their parent is to keep them safe. That doesn't include lying to them and putting them on life changing unproven medication.

Boombatty · 20/04/2024 23:46

I'm going to predict a response along the lines of "biology is really complicated and you lot don't understand it" and/or "why are you obsessed with genitalia". Probably with a sprinkling of bigot and transphobe.

Myalternate · 20/04/2024 23:40

Pitta567 has gone very quiet. Maybe they’ve been told to switch off their phone and go to sleep.

HoneyButterPopcorn · 20/04/2024 23:39

Pitta567 · 20/04/2024 23:08

People do change sex

Do explain how this miracle of nature happens…

littlbrowndog · 20/04/2024 23:38

It is a child abuse not letting a child grow up naturally. That family need investigation for what they have done and what their future plans for their daughter

Codlingmoths · 20/04/2024 23:35

People should write in and make it clear to the bbc this is abuse that they have let someone speak about at length and will be a prosecutable crime once the evidence advances (which will be because of innocent children victims like this)

wonderstuff · 20/04/2024 23:33

For a really long time, a couple of years maybe my son believed he would grow up to be Spider-Man, he would talk in detail about how he could turn into spider man and get very upset at the idea it wasn’t going to happen. Kids have vivid and enduring fantasies. They role play different versions of their future self, they create elaborate scenarios and plans. Sometimes we go with them, sometimes we challenge them. What we don’t do is start medical intervention, because kids can’t consent to it, puberty is sometimes upsetting and scary, growing up is difficult, but normal puberty shouldn’t be negotiable.

littlbrowndog · 20/04/2024 23:30

But when parents are actively saying they will get get illegal drugs to hurt their children it’s is not a laughing matter and a parent feel’emboldened to say it on national radio these parents should be investigated

Doyoumind · 20/04/2024 23:30

Do you think it's fair a child has been lied to pitta? Because that's what has been happening for the whole of this child's life. That child won't have a memory of being anything but a 'boy' if they were 'transitioned' before they could speak.

That child cannot understand that they aren't and never will be the same as other boys.

I see major, major psychological issues coming along for that poor child. Either they will have to face the fact they are not a boy and develop as a normal girl, or horrifyingly they will go on to puberty blockers privately, then testosterone and never have the chance to have a biological child or to have a healthy adult body.

littlbrowndog · 20/04/2024 23:27

Boombatty · 20/04/2024 23:26

There's just no point trying to have a rational conversation with someone who thinks people can change sex.

Always that 🤣

Boombatty · 20/04/2024 23:26

There's just no point trying to have a rational conversation with someone who thinks people can change sex.

DuckDuckNo · 20/04/2024 23:25
  1. People do not "change sex". That is impossible.
  2. I see you're avoiding the question, but are you a parent?
  3. I have children, and neither of them had a very clear concept of sex even at 6. When preverbal, they had absolutely no idea. None.
CactusBasket · 20/04/2024 23:25

Pitta567 · 20/04/2024 23:08

People do change sex

Legal sex, yes; actual sex, no.

Children cannot change legal sex or actual sex.

littlbrowndog · 20/04/2024 23:25

The mum of the child was on x saying that she believed in reincarnation that her daughter was being reincarnated as a boy 🤐

Boombatty · 20/04/2024 23:21

Is that you India? 🤣

lonelywater · 20/04/2024 23:19

Pitta567 · 20/04/2024 23:08

People do change sex

lets be clear-you mean sex, as opposed to gender? if so, how do bollocks turn magically into cunts? Pleas tell me that's not what you mean? (p.s.-any nonsense about clownfish won't do)

Myalternate · 20/04/2024 23:17

Pitta567 · 20/04/2024 23:08

People do change sex

Put very simply, no one has ever changed their birth sex.
Some poor soul may think it’s possible but a rational minded person knows it’s impossible.

#Nodebate 👍

popebishop · 20/04/2024 23:15

Ok, so even imagining people could change sex, what has that got to do with their gender?

Boombatty · 20/04/2024 23:14

Pitta567 · 20/04/2024 23:08

People do change sex

Oh dear...