Spectator article on author feeling horny after watching a lecture by a female academic at Cambridge University and then hiring a prostitute

men are far more driven by hormones than they will ever admit, testosterone is a powerful thing. You can see that in the young women who are taking it, they can be just as aggressive as the men when we meet them on the protests, they are incandescent with rage.

There are sex robots - men can buy rubber dolls, moving willy sucker things. There are still men who would rather crush a living woman's spirit and have a fight to show their power, trying to break someone because they physically can.

Men who refuse all therapy, going around wilfully emotionally hurting women repeatedly then moving on to the next are also damaging women and not doing menfolk any favours. I strongly suspect the author is one of these.

sadly, rape and child sexual abuse is far more common than we think, and that’s the stuff that merits a paragraph three pages in to the newspaper. As you point out, most of it goes unreported.

That won't work because, clearly, your brothers and cousins who already had girlfriends were still cheating on them with other girls. I would suggest that while their sex drive was undoubtedly strong at that age their ego/need to show off was just as big a motivator - hence the laughing in the kitchen. Its not JUST about the sex, its about gaining social status with their peers/competing with their peers for having sex (or for talking down about girls). Providing them with 30 year old women (uurgh) won't scratch that itch.
Which is also why the sex robots won't work. Even the author of the piece made it clear that the woman's emotional reaction to him (and subservience) was important. You need a human being below you to feel better about yourself.

Plus I really don't think those transactional relationships are good - especially for young men. Old perves like the author are too old and soiled to improve. And the idea of a 30 year old sleeping with a 16 year old and it being a good thing for the 16 year old is rancid. Maybe your own parents relationship was a bad model for you/your brothers?

Yes. Although I imagine many actresses have more power over their image or at least have been taught/learnt how to weaponise their looks, accept they are 'on show' etc (I could be wrong!) whereas I have met very few (I remember one notable exception but not common at all in my subject) female academics who wield their sexuality for power.

We/I usually dress down/don't wear heels or lowcut body hugging clothes - no 'look at me outfits' etc. Almost deliberately trying not to attract attention.

It's a key difference IME between female academics and female staff in admin departments who do go in for power dressing - and all power to their elbow!

Of course - it's a power trip and a way to demean and subjugate her because he can't have her. Pathetic as it is.

It’s so disgusting. That these men have to reduce intelligent, successful women to their body parts and sexualise them to ridicule and demean them as they are threatened (or just get off on it)

Can you imagine the same from a Nobel prize winning woman? Or any woman for that matter: “I sat in his lecture and all I could think about was his cock”?!

It’s astounding that some men are happy to advertise what pathetic perverts they are.

I was thinking about this earlier. He's used both women again by writing about them. The first time he treats them both as sexual objects, the second time as fodder for copy. For which he is getting paid.

Vile, vile man.

I imagine his theatre visits now, as the theatre critic for the Spectator, will be also haunting for the actresses.

I am pretty sure he got some sort of kick out of naming her, the creep.

But this will haunt her for the rest of her career - I am glad she is coming out fighting but still I would personally struggle with this everytime I gave a lecture (although too old now to be 'fanciable' thank god 😂).

It's hard enough as a woman and research has shown female lecturers always get worse feedback from male students and ate not given the respect that male lecturers get.

Fraser Nelson (editor): WTF were you thinking to allow this?

I suspect a pp is right and the editor hates him.

Is the term “hoisted by his own petard” correct? Or maybe just give someone enough rope..

Haven't read the whole thread, but I am reminded that one of the DNA Nobel prize winners put in his book about his work that he went to a lecture by Rosalind Franklin (the one who didn't win a Nobel prize) and all he could think about was her breasts. I wonder how common this is. Thinking it and then publicising it.

Good grief that is unbelievable! How can the Spectator publish such a thing. And name the academic. Am shocked.

And then we have the gentleman who is Declan Rice.

What a contrast.

For too long men have belittled and trivialised the abuse of women. And it’s STILL going on. In my life, I have known six women who were raped or sexually abused. Not one of them went to the police. Not one. I should think that’s pretty common. If you read that there were fifty rapes last year in your home town, you could confidently bet that for every one of those reported rapes, another ten went unreported. I have a nasty feeling that the sexual abuse of children (especially young girls) was absolutely rife in this country until very recently. I remember a friend telling me that her mum had numerous boyfriends when my friend was a young teen. Then she added bitterly (and this is seared into my memory) “I always had a new stepdad coming in to kiss me goodnight.” She actually stayed in touch with one of her mum’s old boyfriends because he was the only one who didn’t sexually abuse her.

I don't think boys and men aged 16-25 are mad or that they will become so if not either given lesser men to shoot at in wars, or given prostituted women to poke their dicks into.

Teenagers and young adults have strong feelings which it's important they learn to handle, sure. For example, I was unbelievably broody and also sexually driven at that age. My mum gave me some sensible warnings about what an early pregnancy would mean for me, and I managed my own fertility successfully.

This author isn't a teenager. He tries to make his sex drive separate from him. It's part of him and he indulges it as much as possible and as abusively as possible. He doesn't have to do any of that.

It's utterly baffling how women are the ones who get called hormonal yet can apparently manage their hormones without being offered up men to shag whenever they can afford it, but men who are apparently far more logic and less hormonal than women cannot cope without prostitutes because of their hormones 🙄

Just for the record I'm not a "modern intersectional feminist" I'm not really sure FWR is a hotbed of modern intersectional feminism tbh

If you want to complain about women throwing out safeguarding you might want to go to Reddit not MN, you are aiming this at literally the wrong people..

I will probably get flamed for this, but you could make a case for prostitution to be available for young men (16-25). Boys that age are (quite literally) mad with testosterone and sexual frustration. I sometimes wonder if it would be a good thing to allow them to visit prostitutes. Obviously the women should be carefully screened for addiction, childhood abuse, PTSD and so on.

Flamed? On a feminist website? For suggesting that women should be served up as sexual playthings for young men because young men are too mad with hormones to be able to negotiate relationships respectfully?
Ffs.🤦‍♀️

I can see his point. I will probably get flamed for this, but you could make a case for prostitution to be available for young men (16-25). Boys that age are (quite literally) mad with testosterone and sexual frustration. I sometimes wonder if it would be a good thing to allow them to visit prostitutes. Obviously the women should be carefully screened for addiction, childhood abuse, PTSD and so on.

I’m not saying I like the idea. Prostitution isn’t “just a job.” It’s a hideously ugly thing, however you spin it. But so is the way young men treat young women. They’re so desperate to lose their virginity, get laid and impress their mates that they really don’t care who gets hurt in the process. Looking back, my teenage brothers and cousins did some terrible things - constantly cheating on their girlfriends, making disgusting jokes about girls they’d been with, etc. I never got over the shock of hearing them boast and laugh in the kitchen. Which is worse, a 17-year-old virgin visiting a 30-year-old escort, or pretending he wants a relationship with a girl his own age just so he can use her for sex?

Frankly, I long for the day when we have robot brothels and men can “pump and dump” a piece of silicone and metal instead.

sorry, I actually didn’t realise you were being sarcastic, there are women on here saying things like that in all seriousness believe it or not. It’s a real problem that I see with feminism and it’s actually led us to where we are now, but thanks for not engaging with what I was actually talking about.

Thank you for making my sarcastic flippant comment the "big problem you have with feminism"

Awesome, I really needed to know I was in fact the problem with feminism 🤣🤣

I tried to edit this but it wouldn’t allow it. I know many men, including in my own family who have protected women from abuse and exploitation, sometimes at great personal cost to themselves. I love these men fiercely and am so grateful to them for their integrity and courage, and just for clarity, most men are decent human beings, we need to hold on to that.

This unrealistic attitude is a big problem I have with feminism, we are totally ignoring the elephant in the room here, the fact that this is biologically driven male behaviour and no amount of socialisation is going to change that. Demanding or expecting men to behave is not going to work, not ever. There will always be huge numbers of men who will use their male strength and societal power to satisfy these biological urges. We need to accept this and work on the protection of women from the worst excesses of men by accepting that many of them really are driven by the brain in their trousers and not the one that sits on their shoulders. We need to accept that these urges become so strong that they will do anything to satisfy them, however dreadful that is. So much perversion and violence is driven by these mens rage at not being able to do what they want to any woman they want, whenever they want. Religions stifling repression of sexuality and the repression of women as a sex class in society has a hell of a lot to answer for.
This is a can of worms that we need to open in order to make progress. Instead of doing this, we are going in the opposite direction and this direction is being forced partly by modern intersectional feminisms insistence that the differences between the sexes is a social construct, it’s not, and many of us knew that taking feminism in this direction would have dire consequences for women, as it’s not based in reality and was bound to fail. This is not to excuse the behaviour but to recognise that it is driven by male biology, if we refuse to see that then we continue to expose females to dangers that could be avoided.
Before anyone starts with the “ not all men “ trope, I am well aware of that, but many more of them than we would like to admit. I used to work on the newspaper cuttings table of a well known women’s library, I had to stop as the realisation that this was so common that it warranted only a paragraph, three or four pages in, shook me to the core. The number of offences floored me, not a week went by without reports of rape or child sex offences in many different newspapers from around the UK. I am myself a survivor of child sexual abuse, I had thought that it was rare, it’s not, it’s depressingly very, very common and it’s now being ignored or justified more than ever, with safeguarding being thrown out of the window by many women as well as men. So depressing.

Well what woman is going to sleep with him now ?