Miriam Cates/National Conservatives conference

@MrsOvertonsWindow

Sorry but this is playground level analysis. Taking a look at a twitter post doesn't convert into helping a political party. As for arguing that "if you agree with one or two things she says, it is likely you'll agree with others" 😂

How doesn't it help the Tories? Do you understand algorithms? The amount of work the goes into the programming and coding behind the scenes is staggering. Everything is linked.

And, yes, of course if you agree on one issue, you are likely to agree on others. This is how politics, and political parties, work. You don't have to agree on everything - that would be rare - but in general, you would find you're in harmony.

Honestly, this tired line of 'You're all right wing bigots really, you're just pretending to be frustrated (wannabe / ex-)Labour voters' is pathetic.

Is it really only 'permitted' to disagree with absolutely everything Tory MPs say, even if they occasionally say things which are sensible / correct? That's a fucking bonkers way of living life.

I'm guessing someone once tutted at @JessS1990 for feeding a toddler chips? So therefore no one should ever care about or intervene in a any way with other people's kids. And I definitely shouldn't have stopped a toddler from rolling into a busy road a couple of years back.

No, I wouldn't. Child abuse would be force feeding or not feeding at all.
Chips are just potatoes....no great harm in them...even if not ideal as a regular meal. Lots of small children are fussy eaters and can get fixated on eating only one type of thing all the time. And if that is what the parents chooses to eat themselves, no doubt they will offer it to their child too.

Is "Splitting hairs" the term you are using for being factually correct and able to differentiate?

Feeding an 18month old chips for lunch. (regularly I might add).

About what?

Being able to differentiate between one type of thing and another is a very useful skill.

Would you have had words?

Islam is a religion, Islamism is a political ideology.

Miriam Cates was voted in using a democratic process.

Twix algorithms are not a democratic process and everyone has the right to look at whatever account they want to.

If you allow algorithms to control you and your behaviour, you are part of the problem, not the solution.

Don't be stupid!

RebelliousCow · Yesterday 13:00
MrsSkylerWhite · Yesterday 12:21

anothernamitynamenamechange ·Yesterday 22:17
I just read about the conference being closed down and was shocked actually”

Why do you find it shocking that right wing extremists were closed down?
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They are mainstream Conservative figures from across Europe. They are not illegitimate terrorist organisations.
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Are you aware of what totalitarianism means and how it operates?.

They were mainstream.
Yes, thank you.

Sorry but this is playground level analysis. Taking a look at a twitter post doesn't convert into helping a political party. As for arguing that "if you agree with one or two things she says, it is likely you'll agree with others" 😂
Agreeing with you stating what time it is or that the sky is blue and sea is wet does not equate to me agreeing with any other of your beliefs or statements.

The level of debate on this thread is at times sadly lacking.

Ive heard this excuse trotted out frequentły. Itʼs a craven cop-out. The trouble is if you are visiting her X timełine (or similar) youʼre boosting her algorithm and ałtering your own algorithm. Ergo, you are helping the Tories. It makes no difference if you don't directly vote for her.

What a world we live in now

Ive heard this excuse trotted out frequentły. Itʼs a craven cop-out. The trouble is if you are visiting her X timełine (or similar) youʼre boosting her algorithm and ałtering your own algorithm. Ergo, you are helping the Tories. It makes no difference if you don't directly vote for her.

It is rare for a politician to stray from the party line, either; so if you agree with one or two things she says, it is likely you'll agree with others. I'm sure you're intelligent enough not to be a single-issue voter, though.

Were they locked in a flat with "bad people"?

Sigh.

I term myself as a centre left sort but when it comes to GC politicians, the ideology has a pan-political pushback.

Miriam Cates, Kemi Badonoch, Rosie Duffield and Tonia Antoniazzi come from both sides of the Chamber and whilst a lot of what they stand for, I don't, I do agree with their stance of women's rights.

I'm no political zealot. I don't hate any politician just because they are NatCon or Socialist or whatever else. I don't hate them because they belong to a particular political party. I disagree with Labour and strongly disagree with the Tories.

I don't think anyone should be denied the right to speak. I don't think any event should be closed down because someone or some people disagree with what might be discussed there. I don't agree with comedy, music or theatre productions being cancelled because some people find the person featured in it reprehensible. That is very wrong.

If you don't like something, you don't have to engage with it. You can ignore it. I would have paid this conference no attention. Now it's been cancelled, how can anyone not have an opinion? It's been all over the media!

If I were Sunak I'd want to know why Cates and Braverman weren't in Parliament doing their jobs.

Mainly I dislike her because she has far right associations and says far right things

Like TWAM?

I’ll just point out that you’ve conflated Islam with Islamism.

I’m grateful to have been brought up with the benefit of all three of those statistically helpful and stable factors. I had friends in care who came from dysfunctional families in poverty. I think they would have been hugely helped if someone had done a better job of looking after them as children, whether through adoption, a charity, or the state.

If you’ve only seen kids in functional families, maybe you don’t see how much some of them need support from a much wider community than their frankly useless parents. This is not to blame the parents necessarily; parenting is hard for many of us, and some parents have been dealt an awful hand in life. SureStart was a decent attempt to support parents. I don’t know whether Miriam Cates agrees. I do know that her father was a GP in a practice which provided medical care for a lot of homeless and otherwise disadvantaged people.

Con is an accurate description of them.

@JessS1990 I don’t think Cates, or many on this board, have strong opinions on mayo. You know the "con" in "natcon" doesn't stand for condiments right?