Maya Forstater has challenged Adam Rutherford and Ben Goldacre to set Bragg straight about Cass and systematic reviews

No! What makes you say that @MissLucyEyelesbarrow ?
I love Hannah Fry.

Someone got to all those Skepto Lads (and Roberts) early on, in the same way the Lib Dems were captured.

And yes, I know it sounds tinfoil hat but I've read the stuff Whittle & Burns wrote, plus Morton in Scotland. The whole social movement was designed and implemented quietly, and capture of key groups was part that.

He may not even have been aware of it, but Rutherford was nobbled.

And I AM disappointed with Goldacre, although I understand not wanting to risk your livelihood and reputation (hence the attack dogs to reinforce that message if anyone's tempted). I do wonder if he'd spoken out early and clearly if he could have swayed things. There may be another opportunity coming round just now.

In fairness, I have not listened to her R4 show, or followed it on socials for a couple of years, so maybe she has changed her mind. Before then, though neither she nor AR addressed gender woo directly, there were definitely remarks suggesting they were following the blue-haired path of #BeKind.

Relevant article here by Victoria Smith - the sadness of Sceptical man.
https://thecritic.co.uk/the-sadness-of-sceptical-man/

Oh no. I thought she did when she wore the woman t shirt!

I like your description of Rutherford!

I now have a mental image of an angry misogynistic crab scuttling around pinching gender critical women's toes for not being "woke" enough to understand that magic bit of science that makes men who call themselves women suddenly become women.

Because thoughts, feelings and ideas over material reality also magically become science when they're about gender. It's religion identifying as science, using the Reasonable Man Crab as its costume 🦀

Ben Goldacre really doesn’t do public stuff of this sort much at all any more so I sort of forgive him for not coming out on TwiX.

He is incredibly cowardly. Debunking homeopathy is easy - talking about this is difficult, but that’s what prominent science broadcasters have to do. As soon as he has to talk about something his own side support he runs a mile. I am incredibly disappointed tbh. All these men are such cowards

I wrote an essay about Andrew Wakefield for a course I was doing; I used a lot of Ben Goldacre's book and online articles to refer to how all that had happened. He did a lot of work into that.

And now Wakefield is signing a letter condemning Cass.

Interesting times.

No way can Goldacre ever support that shit.

Then why the fuck did he block Emma Hilton?

Which I now can't find

Hahahaha. That’s brilliant.

“Have you considered writing it about sex in sport instead? It seems more pertinent for a scientist.
^^
(If you're unsure of the difference between sex and gender, you probably should reconsider the book)
^^
It would be like not knowing the difference between astronomy and astrology.”

Or as the DC would say: oof, that’s cold.

Another Alice Roberts situation I guess - isn't he a humanist too?

He took over from.her as president of Humanists UK.

No!

I really like Adam Rutherford. Very disappointed to find out that he's another cowardly man.

Arse.

She 100% doesn't. Sorry.

Adam Rutherford used to do a BBC podcast with Hannah Fry, the data scientist & mathematician, where they answered questions about science. I used to like it.

I really really really really hope Hannah Fry gets it.

I was surprised that Rutherford doesn't know much about how systematic reviews work. I'd have thought he'd have needed at least an inkling for his job.
Never mind the genetics stuff.
Another Alice Roberts situation I guess - isn't he a humanist too?

They’re saying they don’t understand what a systemic review is or am I misunderstanding?

If so that’s utterly ridiculous - SRs are basic basic science!

Ben Goldacre was pretty famous a few years ago, a Guardian column and some popular books.
I don't know the other one either.

Far better to concentrate on influential people. That most have heard of.

Well most people who read about science at pretty much any level in the U.K. will be aware of them.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Goldacre

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Rutherford

You are now also aware of them!

Very fortunate you've managed to avoid them in any U.K. media, most of us see them quite a bit!

Thank you and the others. Still don’t get it. Not UK based is probably why. But I’ve never heard of either and don’t think they matter. I subscribe to two UK newspapers. Listen to the BBC etc. Far better to concentrate on influential people. That most have heard of.

So many highlights in the replies:

https://twitter.com/HairyLeggdHarpy/status/1779794948604174448