Bondi killings

Bobshark, I'm so sorry.

His motives matter in that we can try to avoid further attacks of this sort happening again in future.

@BobShark sending unmumsnetty hugs to all devastating. X

Maybe this sounds awful but I don’t really care what his motives were as the outcomes were the same.

There's always one ....Columbo fan?

This bit made me tear up:

"He just started floating towards us and all I heard was 'put it down' and then she shot him," he told ABC News Australia.

"Then she walked over and gave him CPR. He had a big blade on him - she chucked the knife away. He looked like he was on a killing spree."

I'm not sure that in that situation I could so quickly switch from dealing with the aggressor to trying to save him. Huge respect to her for her skill and professionalism.

I live in bondi,
Many friends were there at Westfield when this happened, a couple even witnessed the events.
It has shocked and traumatised a small community that we are, as a Brit who has lived here in this area 15 years, I've never felt unsafe. And would happily walk home alone at night.

The local media here has strongly suggested this is not related to any religious ideology and are pointing towards a mental illness.

Social media locally has been full of fear that this is somehow related to an attack on the large Jewish community that live here.

I think from what we know so far, it was more likely that the women were easier targets than the men,

I'm not sure how we will recover from this, one of the women killed is a part of our surf club, with two young kids, I see her every Sunday at training.

Two security guards were attached, the one named so far was working his first day on the job.

The police officer was so brave, she happened to be on patrol in the area and took the attacker on alone with no idea if there was any backup in the way.

The fact a tiny baby was stabbed is unthinkable, two men stepped in and took care of her when her mother couldn't any longer.

I don't think it's helpful right now to speculate on the motives of the attacker, the police are working round the clock to uncover any potential motives.

This.

The fact that he targeted women shows that he didn’t lose control at all.

It wasn’t random. He walked into a shopping centre with a knife looking for women, to stab them.

Why do innocents have to suffer ( majority female victims it appears) because a man has lost control of himself?

he hasn't 'lost control'. he is 100% in control which is part of this problem.
he does this because he can and no one wants to see that because it's normal that a man sees hs woman as his posession.

A dignified response: they must also be suffering enormously.

The killer's family released this statement
“We are absolutely devastated by the traumatic events that occurred in Sydney. Joel’s actions were truly horrific, and we are still trying to comprehend what has happened. He has battled with mental health issues since he was a teenager.
We are in contact with the both the New South Wales police force and Queensland police service and have no issues with the police officer who shot our son as she was only doing her job to protect others and we hope she is coping alright.”
^^

I'm sick of men taking their problems, their inadequacies out on other people. Too often it's women and children.

This.

I don't want to downplay the trauma that police officers might feel when killing in the line of duty, but she should feel very proud of herself. Police have firearms training for a reason. This is that reason.

If he was deliberately attacking women then it is very fitting that a woman taking him out was the last person he ever saw.

What source are you using that ISN'T media? just so us sheeple can be as well informed as you.

I don't think the Internet had quite gotten into it's stride when they happened.

I'm sick of men taking their problems, their inadequacies out on other people. Too often it's women and children. I try to remember there were good people there who helped and one brave woman who was able to stop him.

Australia is now up to 23 women killed by violence so far this year, just 15 weeks 😔.

Tell me, when the Dunblane massacre happened or the shootings in Hungerford, were there people blaming various groups and coming up with conspiracies then?

But you still haven’t said what point you are trying to make?

It's just horrendous. I can't imagine the terror of that poor mother trying to save herself and her little baby.

The people who tried to stop him were very brave especially the female officer who did manage to take him down.

I wept when I heard than a 9 month old baby girl had been targeted by this bastard. And I wept again when I heard that her mother had died.

I am so glad that the officer who shot him was female and that apparently she did not fuck about either.

Open your bloody brain

People on the other side of the world didn't experience this at the same fucking time. It was hours after that people left the shopping centre who were involved directly

Police take statements, paramedics check people

Oh OK,

Well that's me convinced by your persuasive argument.

X was awful as was just about every comment under news reports yesterday and then some random Jewish sounding named 20 year olds social media profile began floating about and it was then a radical Jew who apparently was attacking his ex for moving on and her baby

The man who it actually IS wasn't mentioned by social media while people hijacked the tragedy for other agendas

It's grotesque and felt like there was a vibe of people wanting and gleefully rubbing hands hoping it was down to Islam or Israel meanwhile... people who simply went out shopping were killed in front of families and friends senselessly

Witnesses said security guards were wounded but that floated around too with social media claiming that they were useless

And now the conspiracy theories will go around regarding the lack of blood... they were using clothing to stem the bleeding... think anyone cares after that about making those men pay for new clothes?? Shopkeepers would have gladly given them clothing and they wouldn't have left the centre till HOURS after the attack ffs

I don’t quite get the point you’re making.