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Susie Green is launching a new trans Helpline

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WhitePenguin · 13/04/2024 22:56

Just when you thought she'd scurried away in shame.

Apparently there will be an article in the Mail on Sunday tomorrow.

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newtlover · 15/04/2024 09:27

slightly off topic but I'm told its easy to buy under the counter antibiotics etc if you know where to go

KellieJaysLapdog · 15/04/2024 09:21

SoupDragonsFriend · 14/04/2024 16:45

I can't see why, given the existing legislation about fgm, the WPATH files and the findings of the Cass report, a law couldn't be put in place quickly to make it an offence for adults with care of children, or under-18s themselves, to access directly from abroad drugs such as puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones, or any sex-related surgery for those young people. Surely now, since it's children being talked about, there would be cross-party support. Maybe the election is too close to hope for anything before then.

It’s an offence to buy alcohol for a minor aka ‘proxy purchase’ (and a breach of the sellers license to sell to someone who you suspect will give it to a minor) so seems reasonable to me.

Obvs laws aren’t always enforced but knowing something is illegal is enough to make most people think they probably shouldn’t do that thing.

The law hasn’t kept up with the internet in lots of ways, being able to easily buy grey market prescription-only drugs is only one of them.

newtlover · 15/04/2024 09:14

that is so wierd, uncanny valley level wierd
If you told me that was a skilled actor lipsyncing with a video I would absolutely believe it
its not just the voice, the speech mannerisms are completely those of a self obsessed male in late teens early 20s

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 15/04/2024 09:13

lonelywater · 14/04/2024 19:50

anyone who feels comfortable with mutilating kids wants their fucking heads looking at.

Agreed. But it’s easy to avoid looking critically at one’s own culture.

SidewaysOtter · 14/04/2024 22:30

BoreOfWhabylon · 14/04/2024 21:17

This appears to be the person Green is going into partnership with

Watch to the end, where he invites UK and EU medics to get in touch, as long as they can sign prescriptions.

Crikey, that’s a complicated person. And very much a male voice there, despite the appearance.

BoreOfWhabylon · 14/04/2024 21:39

ArabellaScott · 14/04/2024 21:24

Oh my god, the one who got paid thousands to transition on camera for a 'sugar daddy'?

The whole set up made me feel queasy.

Apparently that's the one.

wiffin · 14/04/2024 21:34

It's worse than fgm in some ways. Because it sterilises the child.

And I thought fgm was as barbaric as you can get.

ArabellaScott · 14/04/2024 21:24

Oh my god, the one who got paid thousands to transition on camera for a 'sugar daddy'?

The whole set up made me feel queasy.

BoreOfWhabylon · 14/04/2024 21:17

This appears to be the person Green is going into partnership with

Watch to the end, where he invites UK and EU medics to get in touch, as long as they can sign prescriptions.

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Datun · 14/04/2024 20:53

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/04/2024 19:42

Great article on Green from Hadley in 2022

https://unherd.com/2022/11/mermaids-useful-idiots/

as she says, Green never hid who she was and who she still is

That's a brilliant article. Angry, controlled, succinct.

SqueakyDinosaur · 14/04/2024 20:44

The slogan needs to be "Protect Dysphoric Kids", really.

OhPea · 14/04/2024 20:25

The slogan “Protect Trans Kids” makes me cry tears of frustration. Yes, we should protect the children expressing discomfort, distress or incongruence with their sex! They should be protected from people like Susie.

lonelywater · 14/04/2024 19:50

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 14/04/2024 19:22

Because FGM is part of someone else’s culture, whereas identity affirming genital surgery is part of “our” (transgender) culture. One's own culture, that is the culture one feels comfortable in, is always justifiable.

anyone who feels comfortable with mutilating kids wants their fucking heads looking at.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/04/2024 19:42

Great article on Green from Hadley in 2022

https://unherd.com/2022/11/mermaids-useful-idiots/

as she says, Green never hid who she was and who she still is

Mermaids' useful idiots

Journalists, teachers and activists all defended Susie Green

https://unherd.com/2022/11/mermaids-useful-idiots/

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 14/04/2024 19:22

SidewaysOtter · 14/04/2024 16:38

It does seem remarkably similar. Why is FGM seen as the terrible thing it is, but mutilating children in the name of "affirming their identity" is acceptable?

Because FGM is part of someone else’s culture, whereas identity affirming genital surgery is part of “our” (transgender) culture. One's own culture, that is the culture one feels comfortable in, is always justifiable.

SoupDragonsFriend · 14/04/2024 16:45

I can't see why, given the existing legislation about fgm, the WPATH files and the findings of the Cass report, a law couldn't be put in place quickly to make it an offence for adults with care of children, or under-18s themselves, to access directly from abroad drugs such as puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones, or any sex-related surgery for those young people. Surely now, since it's children being talked about, there would be cross-party support. Maybe the election is too close to hope for anything before then.

SidewaysOtter · 14/04/2024 16:38

Villagetoraiseachild · 14/04/2024 13:18

I still find any reference to that trip to Thailand upsetting. It feels equivalent to fgm.

It does seem remarkably similar. Why is FGM seen as the terrible thing it is, but mutilating children in the name of "affirming their identity" is acceptable?

Villagetoraiseachild · 14/04/2024 13:18

I still find any reference to that trip to Thailand upsetting. It feels equivalent to fgm.

FrancescaContini · 14/04/2024 13:14

This is the woman who got her son castrated in Thailand?

Feckedupbundle · 14/04/2024 13:03

LoobiJee · 14/04/2024 07:59

To understand Susie Green’s agenda it’s important to be aware that she took her 15 year old child (whom Susie Green believed to be gay) to Thailand in order to have genital surgery performed on her child on her child’s 16th birthday. Prior to that Susie Green had put her child on a drug regime - obtained from the US - from the age of 12 in order to suppress her child’s puberty.

Susie Green took over Mermaids and turned it from an organisation which adopted a “watchful waiting” approach to supporting families and children, into an organisation that did everything it could to mislead and terrify parents into believing that if they didn’t subject their children to what Susie Green’s child had been subjected to by her then their children would commit suicide.

It’s also important to know that Susie Green has no background in medicine, psychology, child development or research. Her previous career was something like IT support / office manager type role. There was a very significant breach of GDPR relating to confidential information about children in her time as head of Mermaids. Eventually she was sacked by Mermaids. Another of her children was employed in Mermaids’ finance department, apparently.

That’s the background to Susie Green’s agenda.

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Bloody hell. I've got a GCSE in Child Psychology from 1993,so even I'm more qualified to deal with the mental state of minors than Suze.
It'd be funny if there weren't so many ruined lives and futures presided over by this woman.

BusyMummy001 · 14/04/2024 12:57

lechiffre55 · 14/04/2024 09:21

What is her liability standing here? When she's doing this as an employee of a charity the charity bears the liability of her actions even if she's the one making all the decisions. I'm not a lawyer but it seems to me she might be personally liable now. A child harmed by what she does could sue her personally?

I wonder whether that liability wouldn’t extend to every volunteer, too? If it’s not a charity, if they are effectively marketing medical and pharmaceutical services to vulnerable young people without the pre-resquisit medical training, if they are not doing it as employees but as private volunteers, then surely each of them would be personally liable? This is where we need Roddy KC or maybe Dennis Noel Kavanagh to state the law.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 14/04/2024 12:07

Someone has put a link to suzies Ted talk (now mysteriously vanished from the main site and you tube)

https://x.com/the_statemedia/status/1705200287407907254?s=46&t=aWQLrPtVicDNf6MQpq5WVg

https://x.com/the_statemedia/status/1705200287407907254?s=46&t=aWQLrPtVicDNf6MQpq5WVg

MyWhoHa · 14/04/2024 11:21

@SqueakyDinosaur

Poor Jackie doesn't really have much choice to do anything but be 100% supportive of Susie.