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The absolute brass neck of Ruth Hunt

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Rainbowshit · 13/04/2024 10:00

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fe117e6b-0b9b-4157-aeb6-23ad2f88e6ba?shareToken=309d7a26354dc115f9ce038238e47473

No. You're not going to get to rewrite history.

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GenderBlender · 13/04/2024 11:49

That is the brassiest of brass necks indeed. Now she is worried about where all the butch lesbians have gone. It's not exactly a mystery is it.

LoobiJee · 13/04/2024 11:47

“Screenshots seen by The Times reveal how Stonewall also pressurised local authority leaders to direct schools in their area to ignore the [Transgender Trend] advice. In its newsletter to school leaders, Warwickshire county council, wrote: “Please be aware … We have been asked by Stonewall to advise schools that this does not reflect good practice and is actively misleading around schools’ duties/role in supporting trans children and young people.” A similar warning was circulated by local authorities in Hertfordshire in June 2019.”

MarieDeGournay · 13/04/2024 11:45

Un-bel-iev-able dishonesty, brass necks and bad faith 😠.
As a PP said, the internet never forgets, lets flood every phone-in, letters to editors, online fora, whatever, with incontrovertible proof that these people were dangerously wrong then, and shamelessly lying now.

allnewfor2024 · 13/04/2024 11:35

Hunt has noticed that the wind has changed direction. Kelley hasn’t.

FrancescaContini · 13/04/2024 11:33

mrshoho · 13/04/2024 11:26

Hopeful that she will be stripped of her peerage too.

🙏

mrshoho · 13/04/2024 11:26

Hopeful that she will be stripped of her peerage too.

FoodAnxiety · 13/04/2024 11:23

She is a liar. Like everyone else at Stonewall 🤷🏼‍♀️

Winterborne74 · 13/04/2024 11:16

I’m struggling to process the shamelessness of it all. She seems willing to throw any of her (no doubt former) allies under the bus. If she’s not going to apologise, you’d think she’d maintain a dignified silence, but to flat out deny her responsibility in this while pointing the finger elsewhere is Post Office style corporate villainy.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/04/2024 11:14

A very insightful comment under that article quoting 2 sections from it:

"...campaigners sent out resource packs to schools in 2018 warning teachers that there was little medical evidence to support puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones...
The evidence-led approach advocated by the resource pack was sent out to thousands of schools by the pressure group Transgender Trend in February 2018. Much of its content has since been upheld by Dr Hilary Cass in her landmark review."

Compare and contrast:

"Stonewall directed teachers to its own “create a trans-inclusive school” course, which they could attend if they paid membership costs of £99 plus VAT".

The fight against trans-ideology has been fought and funded by volunteers who are passionate about the rights of women and children.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 13/04/2024 11:09

All credit to Stephanie Davies-Arai fromTransgender Trend who produced the guide for schools for and received so much hate from Stonewall - all because the guide promoted safeguarding children. Stonewall mounted a massive campaign against it.

Abeona · 13/04/2024 11:07

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 13/04/2024 10:45

J’accuse….

Do you have a link for that photo? I want to send it to about a thousand people who have told me I'm a hateful bigot.

nauticant · 13/04/2024 11:07

Imnobody4 · 13/04/2024 10:59

From Nancy Kelley. Give me strength!

Great article by @sashabaker98 on the Cass Review 👇
https://x.com/Nancy_M_K/status/1778815256103420247?t=C_21FZva6oM10O3y4tq9qg&s=09

Good quotes though:

https://twitter.com/Nancy_M_K/status/1778815256103420247/quotes

viques · 13/04/2024 11:06

Worth remembering that Ruth Hunt worked for Stonewall from 2005 . She may say she isn’t responsible for policies after she left in 2019, but I think it is probably true to say that her fingerprints will be visible over many policies and agendas in the 14 years she was there.

WhereAreWeNow · 13/04/2024 11:03

I guess there was always going to be a reckoning and a lot of reverse ferreting but I never expected it to be quite as brazen as this! Bloody cheek of the woman.

HornyHornersPinkyWinky · 13/04/2024 11:02

FFS sake where is the integrity in any of these people - can they really not take any responsibility for the lies they peddled?

Boiledbeetle · 13/04/2024 11:00

Bloody hell! Lying little so and so.

"She denied that she had ever supported “no debate”, adding: “I’m absolutely someone who has always been working in the middle ground, trying to build consensus.”

Hunt’s critics may contrast that position with her response in October 2018 to a petition asking Stonewall to acknowledge there was a conflict around transgender rights and sex-based women’s rights. She wrote: “We do not and will not acknowledge this. Doing so would imply that we do not believe that trans people deserve the same rights as others. We will always debate issues that enable us to further equality but what we will not do is debate trans people’s right to exist.”

So this is how it's going to play out? Lots of people going "we didn't mean that we meant this / We didn't say that or if we did you misunderstood what we actually meant. / It wasn't me officer!"

Imnobody4 · 13/04/2024 10:59

From Nancy Kelley. Give me strength!

Great article by @sashabaker98 on the Cass Review 👇
https://x.com/Nancy_M_K/status/1778815256103420247?t=C_21FZva6oM10O3y4tq9qg&s=09

https://x.com/Nancy_M_K/status/1778815256103420247?s=09&t=C_21FZva6oM10O3y4tq9qg

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 10:55

Clearly just being LGB isn't as lucrative as T

FrancescaContini · 13/04/2024 10:53

Rainbowshit · 13/04/2024 10:32

'Today Hunt says that, as a lesbian herself, “I’ve always been deeply concerned about the internalised homophobia that is going on for young women that means they think they can’t be a dyke, and they’ve got to be a boy.”

I'm so angry. The absolute nerve.

Stonewall made money, lots of it, by encouraging schools to sign up to their Champions programme to peddle this shit to children thereby undoing decades of positive social progress.

I couldn’t agree more that a public inquiry needs to be held as soon as possible into their role in the damage caused to the physical and mental health of young people through the ideology they have so actively promoted.

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 10:51

Interesting comment from Barnes:

x.com/hannahsbee/status/1779072492855763044?s=46&t=A2fpFNgDRyXF2d6ye97wEA

The absolute brass neck of Ruth Hunt
LunaNorth · 13/04/2024 10:50

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 13/04/2024 10:45

J’accuse….

Such a heartbreaking image. How was this ever allowed?

That’s an image that will be in history books in the future, as an illustration of these times and the collective madness that was a culmination of the devastating effects of patriarchy, misogyny, homophobia, big pharma and the dangers of an unregulated internet.

A horror show.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/04/2024 10:49

nauticant · 13/04/2024 10:43

Look how the blame game's going to go, they're lining up Polly Carmichael to be the fall-guy (which would be well-deserved):

Hunt said her only regret was trusting the “experts”, such as Dr Polly Carmichael, the former director of the Gender Identity Development Service (Gids). “I think there was a responsibility on the NHS, schools and social services. So it wasn’t in my gift to either make this better or worse,” Hunt said.

So it wasn’t Ruth hunt leading the organisation shouting “trans women are women no debate” and using their employer awards scheme to ram trans ideology into every public body in this country?

nauticant · 13/04/2024 10:48

I believe the correct form of address is Sexual Racist Nancy Kelley.

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 10:46

Any word from Kelley yet?

WarriorN · 13/04/2024 10:46

ResisterRex · 13/04/2024 10:43

No to a golden bridge. Never forget or forgive this:

fovas.wordpress.com/response-to-stonewall-2/

We must have a public inquiry and these people must be compelled to appear and explain themselves.

Completely agree.