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A good time for a thread to note all the companies, charities and celebrities that jumped onto the Trans bandwagon without any care for the children being harmed [title edited]

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MsFogi · 12/04/2024 15:45

So we (and they) don't forget and to assist any journalists who are working on stories. I'll get the ball rolling:

Now the CASS report is out it may be time to revisit the part the Dentons' advice played in all of this - does anyone have a copy? | Mumsnet

[[https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-document-that-reveals-the-remarkable-tactics-of-trans-lobbyists https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-docu...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5048558-now-the-cass-report-is-out-it-may-be-time-to-revisit-the-part-the-dentons-advice-played-in-all-of-this-does-anyone-have-a-copy?reply=134483032

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CatusFlatus · 13/04/2024 23:13

HoneyButterPopcorn · 13/04/2024 22:39

They changed their loos to unisex too.

I have noticed in the Waga branches I've visited lately that staff are wearing plain black lanyards not the rainbow ones they used to.

Also, the loos were individual but labelled either female or male. I'm pretty sure they used to be unisex.

I always made a point of saying in the customer survey you get after you've paid online that I didn't feel welcome and how the trans stuff was alienating. So now I've been saying it's good to see the changes.

At the end of the day businesses jumped on the bandwagon because they thought it made them look good and would make them more money, not because they gave a about the TQ+

birchtreeglow · 13/04/2024 23:08

Arts Coucil England
All of the organisations peddling GI in schools mentioned in Miriam Cates RSE report (though I can't find it on the ncsu website anymore).

HoneyButterPopcorn · 13/04/2024 22:39

They changed their loos to unisex too.

Kimchie · 13/04/2024 22:20

Wagamama raised money for Mermaids.
So I would say that was actively pushing it.
The company is captured, if that’s the right word.
They had done loads of good work for charities before including lgbt orgs and young peoples mental health charities.
DEI groups were created after the George Floyd protests in 2021.
A diversity lead was employed to work at hq in the wake of this, but rather than it being an ethnic minority person it was a “non binary” man.
Pronoun badges were ordered for staff just before the mermaids campaign.
Still no equity or inclusion for people with caring responsibilities in management teams.

crunchermuncher · 13/04/2024 22:07

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/04/2024 20:15

I do understand @HowdidImanagetohavetwoaccountaandthenloseboth I think there’s a difference between those who aggressively pushed it and those who were mindlessly beeee kiiind

Yes indeed.

I find it hard to forgive those who smeared those of us trying to raise legitimate concerns as TERFs.

For example, Stewart Lee's latest show was awful, snide remarks about JKR being morally wrong and misogynistic ranting about how awful mumsnet is. I know he's edgy and some people hate him, but this time he waded into politics that he clearly has no understanding of and maligned the women who do. It wasn't just mindless be kind crap, it was an attack on GC women, and that showed his support for the trans ideology. He could have just kept quiet on the subject.

Will he apologise? Not holding my breath, but like fuck will I ever hand over my hard earned cash for one of his shows again.

turbonerd · 13/04/2024 21:10

Brighton & Edinburgh Rape centres.

Philip Pullman
Neil Gaiman

The Open University.

oh the shame.

CorruptedCauldron · 13/04/2024 20:40

What gets me is that Billy Bragg is doubling down, digging his heels in and trying to discredit the Cass report, even amid reverse ferrets from some of the biggest movers and shakers in the gender movement. Come on, read the room Billy!

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/04/2024 20:16

In fact what @Waitwhat23 said!

Theeyeballsinthesky · 13/04/2024 20:15

I do understand @HowdidImanagetohavetwoaccountaandthenloseboth I think there’s a difference between those who aggressively pushed it and those who were mindlessly beeee kiiind

Waitwhat23 · 13/04/2024 19:14

The ones who acknowledge they were wrong, or apologise, or the ones who didn't speak up but didn't actually go on the attack - fair enough. A 'golden bridge' seems fair enough.

The ones who actively pushed it? The ones who have spitefully and vindictively gone for women - the Scottish Greens for example? No, sorry. Others can but I won't.

HowdidImanagetohavetwoaccountaandthenloseboth · 13/04/2024 19:07

I realise this is going to be unpopular . The term reverse ferreting and this thread . Given there are so many people firms and organisations listed as other have said it would probably be easier to list those that didn’t …We won a great battle this week or rather common sense did , however i fear it was only a battle and it the war - we have a long way to go . What we don’t want to happen is make it easier for people to double down and being defensive and pushing them into a corner . They need an escape route which allows them to about face with some dignity intact . And whilst some of these really sting remembering them and some new ones ( Samaritan training particularly appalling for me ) also off course sting , we need to find a way for it to happen . It’s almost a numbers game, the numbers caught seem to far outweigh those who didn’t, and we will never win the war if we don’t reverse those numbers .

please don’t round on me on for this point of view . I too have been affected personally ( once tg autistic daughter , lost employment due to being gc yada yada , ) so don’t say this lightly .

Waitwhat23 · 13/04/2024 18:54

Near enough every Scottish politician, across all parties, with a few very honourable and brave exceptions.

Waitwhat23 · 13/04/2024 18:52

Kirsty Allsopp who is currently furiously reverse ferreting and claiming that 'those saying there was no debate are wrong'

HoneyButterPopcorn · 13/04/2024 17:54

Nellodee · 12/04/2024 16:05

Jameela Jamil- I was wondering what she had made of the Cass review.

I doubt she read it somehow.

CorruptedCauldron · 13/04/2024 17:41

Not a jot, Ovahere!

OvaHere · 13/04/2024 17:38

CorruptedCauldron · 13/04/2024 17:25

Laura Snapes at The Guardian described Roisin Murphy’s album as having an “ugly stain” on it because she had criticised puberty blockers (in a private Facebook post that was exposed by a so-called friend). That was only a few months ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/sep/07/roisin-murphy-hit-parade-review

That didn't age well did it?

CorruptedCauldron · 13/04/2024 17:25

Laura Snapes at The Guardian described Roisin Murphy’s album as having an “ugly stain” on it because she had criticised puberty blockers (in a private Facebook post that was exposed by a so-called friend). That was only a few months ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/sep/07/roisin-murphy-hit-parade-review

Róisín Murphy: Hit Parade review – a masterful album with an ugly stain

To DJ Koze’s warped soul and dub techno, Murphy examines unrequited love and the ecstasy of being seen for who you are – a theme that jars with her recent comments about trans kids

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/sep/07/roisin-murphy-hit-parade-review

teawamutu · 13/04/2024 13:57

valensiwalensi · 13/04/2024 12:52

Sorry, what are we actually pinpointing here? Were all these people listed publically encouraging children to transition?

Or trying to shut down, silence or shame those who raised doubts/concerns.

valensiwalensi · 13/04/2024 13:13

I would love to see the evidence that channel 5 milkshake for toddlers told them to get gender affirming therapy

porridgecake · 13/04/2024 13:09

valensiwalensi · 13/04/2024 12:52

Sorry, what are we actually pinpointing here? Were all these people listed publically encouraging children to transition?

Yes. There are one or two on the list I wasn't aware of, but I will investigate further. The rest? Yes, absolutely.

valensiwalensi · 13/04/2024 12:52

Sorry, what are we actually pinpointing here? Were all these people listed publically encouraging children to transition?

Freda69 · 13/04/2024 12:50

Etsy for selling ‘chest binders’!!

Livinghappy · 13/04/2024 12:31

So many U.K. Universities it's depressing

Universities pay for trans kits, such as breast binding kits, when it's known to cause health issues rather than counselling as they feared being labelled "conversion" therapy.

AIstolemylunch · 13/04/2024 12:17

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Kirsty Alsop