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Guardian just can't help itself, even on Cass Report day

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Fenlandia · 10/04/2024 11:42

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/10/mother-criticises-agenda-from-above-cass-report-trans

(This may have been linked to in one of the Cass threads, but it needs calling out on its own thread)

The mother of an autistic 'birth-registered male' (if we must) complaining about “an agenda from up on high that things need to be more difficult”.

"“[I thought] do we really come across as the kind of parents who are absolutely delighted to have a transgender child? We might be the kind of parents who’d be absolutely willing to support our transgender child, but in an ideal world I would much rather my child was growing up in a way in which she wasn’t sticking out like a sore thumb and potentially going to end up dead.”

Always with the emotional manipulation, and seemingly no reflection that her child, and all others, deserve much better quality healthcare than they have been getting for years. If GIDS was capable of working it out for themselves, they would have done so by now.

Mother criticises ‘agenda from above’ after release of Cass report

Parent of trans girl says report promotes agenda that ‘things need to be made more difficult’ for children with gender dysphoria

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/10/mother-criticises-agenda-from-above-cass-report-trans

OP posts:
user1471453601 · 10/04/2024 12:13

I take it that you either didn't hear or have chosen to ignore the point Cass made about a toxic culture that has arisen because each "side" of the trans debate is busy scoring points against each other. That, Cass said, gets in the way of children getting the help they need.

MrsKeats · 10/04/2024 12:13

Agreed dodo
So many now that will never have children etc.
it's a tragedy.

Ofcourseshecan · 10/04/2024 12:09

The Guardian is a disgrace to journalism. I read it faithfully for decades, and loved it. Even as its journalistic standards slipped, I still made excuses for it because I thought its heart was in the right place.

But since it shamelessly took up the cudgels against women, I despise it. Boldly speaking up for the rich and powerful — yes, we can see transgenderism’s multi-milionaire backers and influence on governments. I’m glad its founders and the great writers from its past are not here to see it.

LaviniasBigBloomers · 10/04/2024 12:06

I think if you've gone so far down the line with your own child, you have to believe that you were doing the right thing. Someone called this out before in a video, some of the loudest parental voices are driven by a huge and horrible cognitive dissonance. I have empathy for that, it is hard enough for me to acknowledge and work through my parenting errors and I haven't sterilised my children.

DodoPatrol · 10/04/2024 12:05

MrsKeats · 10/04/2024 12:00

Me too.
Too late for my family member now though unfortunately.

And ours, MrsKeats. And those of (counts fingers) four of our friends. I hope the peak has now passed, but these young women (and one man) have a lifetime of consequences.

My sympathies. It's the elephant in the room at family meetups. (And I don't know who the youngster concerned would turn to if thinking of detransitioning, as we've all been so damn tactful about the transition once it was a done deal.)

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 10/04/2024 12:03

Poor mother. Her DC was 8 in 2015 so the poor autistic kid is not even 18 now. And goodness knows what health problems they're going to be living with in their 20s, 30s and later. Though luckily (on second reading!) at least the youngster was born male. AFAIK the long term physical health effects of puberty blockade and cross-sex hormones on girls are much worse.

Nettleskeins · 10/04/2024 12:01

It's laughable really. The Guardian just cherry pick their stories to undermine facts. The Cass Report tells it how it is and then the Guardian will do anything in its power to not look ridiculous, undermine the Cass Report, but in a whiny underhand way, 'we are still Trans champions' way.

MrsKeats · 10/04/2024 12:00

happydappy2 · 10/04/2024 11:59

I long for the day when people realise there is no such thing as a transexual child. Just a child with their own unique personality....

Me too.
Too late for my family member now though unfortunately.

happydappy2 · 10/04/2024 11:59

I long for the day when people realise there is no such thing as a transexual child. Just a child with their own unique personality....

WhereYouLeftIt · 10/04/2024 11:56

"... potentially going to end up dead."
Sounds like she's had the 'would you rather have a dead son or a live daughter' strongarm put on her, and hasn't been able to see her way past it. Which she needs to. But I can see it's very difficult, when it's your own child, to step back far enough to be able to see the wood, not the trees.

Haven't read the article yet, will do later. But yes - the Guardian really can't help itself. <rolls eyes>

Crouton19 · 10/04/2024 11:51

It is interesting that people are unable to believe that possibly medicalisation is not the best option for their child. Surely there being a less damaging solution to their distress would be good news! Little Timmy doesn't need surgery and hormones any more! Why do people insist on clinging on to the narrative that they have been sold? Maybe being a parent of a trans child is an identity in itself.