How are you feeling today if you work in healthcare or a captured organisation?

There was just a teacher the other week, Kevin Lister - he basically refused to use anything but sex-based pronouns without confirmation from the parents, and the school fired him, saying that by not following their policy he was causing emotional harm to a transitioning student AND he was barred from working with children (in any setting). And then he lost his employment tribunal as well, but unfortunately he self-represented.

He's now appealing, and this time is crowdfunding for a lawyer. You can google his name plus fundraiser to find it.

Yes but @HoneyButterPopcorn, @MrsMurphyIWish has to abide by her school's policy, or get fired. You only have to look at what's happened to teachers who have tried to stand up against their own schools policies to see what happens to them - they get fired, and when they try and bring it to an employment tribunal they lose on the basis that they weren't following their employer's policies.

The fact that the policies are wrong is irrelevant. The teacher still gets the sack.

That's why I'm fighting so hard to change my kids' school's policy, though I saw today in the school calendar that all staff are having an EDI inset training with a trainer with she/they in her bio I fear I will be shut down as the teachers have all now been "trained" to know what the "right" policies are.

Presumably @Mudgarden this reflects the extreme levels of coercion and intimidation that accompany the enforcement of these lies on an unconsenting public? If you have no confidence that you'll be supported by your unions, colleagues and will be publicly shamed, then it's not surprising that many prioritise their careers, pensions and "reputations" rather than speak the truth.
From the arrogance of "no debate" to the political manipulation of the useful idiots masquerading as politicians chanting their "some women can have a penis", so many leaders have proved to be a massive disappointment.

It was interesting how many posters objected to the tone of the furious opening post in this thread - people were only doing their job and it's mean to call them out! In the face of the carnage exposed by Cass, women are still expected to mind our language and tone.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5046932-have-you-damaged-the-life-of-a-child?page=1

@TrishTrix One of the things I just cannot understand is why doctors, especially the older more senior ones, have quietly gone along with gender ideology (or at least not spoken up openly). I work in a very captured university that has a med school. The clinical Profs are famously assertive, demanding and have huge authority, yet none of them has stood up to correct misinformation about sex and gender, “trans kids” and the suicide myth, the dangers of wrong-sex medical diagnosis and treatment, none of it.

These people have been practising medicine for years and they know that TW are not biological women, they know that TW don’t need cervical screening, they know that men can’t get pregnant, that sex is not assigned at birth, and that reassignment surgery doesn’t turn a man into a fully functioning female. Yet they are silent, and way less visible than the young diversity & inclusion officers who were recruited in recent years, and who have been successful in imposing mandatory D&I training for all staff, plus endless other training which people are encouraged to attend in things like how to be a trans ally.

This is the most powerful lobbying movement I’ve seen in my whole life. I’ve seen the senior academics shut down some very high level initiatives, but I’ve seen no resistance to this one.

The CQC is also a Stonewall champion - another captured government regulatory body!
I'm hopeful that Sue Evans's judicial review will expose how their membership of Stonewall has influenced their decision to ignore Cass & the need to safeguard children in favour of the lining the pockets of private gender clinics aimed at children and young people:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5035534-another-legal-challenge-this-time-against-the-cqc#:~:text=This%20time%20against%20the%20CQC,-15%20replies&text=%22The%20psychotherapist%20Sue%20Evans%2C%20who,the%20Gender%20Plus%20Hormone%20Clinic.

Until recently Ofsted were Stonewall champions. Then the Telegraph unearthed letters from Stonewall moaning that Inspectors weren't talking to primary children often enough about gender identity! Thus revealing Stonewall's tactics to to wedge trans issues into primary schools. Ofsted then dumped Stonewall.
There's now a new head of Ofsted and I would hope that, given the revelations from Cass about the medical abuse and coercive manipulation of children with the wrong body narrative, Ofsted will now be forced to take a child safeguarding approach rather than their previous transactivist line.
Given how many teacher activists are boasting of their intention to continue to break safeguarding law and guidance by transitioning children in secret from parents, it's highly likely that Ofsted will be forced into action.

I feel emboldened. Although I work in an adult service, I will be looking for opportunities to question, for example, the use of gender when they mean sex.

I work in a children's hospital. I don't work in gender medicine but I regularly encounter children with a trans identity.

I've been quietly speaking up for a while now (e.g our blood transfusion checking system talks about gender when it means sex) and in the last month or so am aware that it isn't just me and a few people worried it's a lot of people. The furtive conversations I've been involved in are now being louder, and in more public places rather than hidden.

My colleagues care desperately about the children we look after, we want to give them high quality care and how to approach kids with pronouns/ two names etc. has been quietly fermenting. There have been various flash points so far with parents/ colleagues e.g pre-op pregnancy tests on trans identified female patients. Both a parent and some staff indicated that they strongly disagreed with biological reality and felt that by persisting to offer one based on the child's biological sex we weren't respecting chosen identity.

Now one of the services I work with has started to include both biological sex and preferred pronouns (for children) on operating lists. I only became aware of this last week and I know that many of those who work in this service don't agree with this decision but were unwilling to speak out for fear of being labelled transphobic and not respecting the EDI principles.

I'm hoping Cass will crystallise some institutional guidance and if it isn't forthcoming I intent to write and ask about it.

Cass would be a good topic for a Grand Rounds (hospital meeting all clinical staff are invited to to discuss a topic). I might suggest that too.

What will also be difficult will be balancing the needs of colleagues who have the protected characteristic of gender reassignment and may negatively interpret changes to services in line with Cass.

At risk of sounding like a tin foil hatter - every useful organisation now has a well organised network of individuals embedded, who are prepared to ignore facts, established protocols and safeguarding. They aren't going anywhere, and we need to watch out for whatever ideology they will embrace next.

I disagree - I think it IS detrimental to their MH. You are not a qualified therapist. I am.

Secondary school.
How are we going to tell the children?
Are we going to tell them?
I already speak out.
It would be really good if the Trust receive letters from parents asking how they are going to respond to the Cass report.

What struck me about the news coverage yesterday is that none of it was reporting the info on social transition, which to me was the bombshell. I don't envy GC teachers trying to get that discussed at schools but that's the big news imo.

The people who captured the NHS are ready to ignore Cass. The news framing of the stories has helped them to "See the waiting lists and the need" and overlook the evidence.

I have retired but worked in higher education for close to 25 years, DH is still there. I’m glad I have retired. He had to sit and do an online test a few months ago about inclusion issues. I looked over his shoulder. It was obvious what answers they wanted and felt all a bit 1984 thinkspeak.

I work in a charity. That has men’s and women’s specific services. But also has said that transwomen could work in the women’s refuge. Luckily that’s hasn’t happened yet. I know this review isn’t related to that aspect of safeguarding specifically, but I hope that it all helps open up these kinds of conversations without being labeled a transphobe.

Interestingly @MrsMurphyIWish our school was inspected just 18 months ago by ISI, and their old policy - which made zero mention of gender identity - was highlighted as excellent, no changes needed to that or to safeguarding, and they got an outstanding overall. So I am using that as well: why not stick with the policy you know the inspectors have approved, unless parental consultation told you otherwise?

I'm a parent currently trying to get our school to revise their RSE policies (which we discovered they updated last summer with no consultation with parents and no notice). That policy includes the line, lifted from KCSIE which Stonewall's CEO Nancy Kelly took credit for lobbying for and inserting, that a child telling a teacher they're trans "is not, in itself" a safeguarding issue and that no one needs to be told unless it would improve the "health or happiness" of that child. Not even the DSL, definitely not the parents. This is a primary school!

I think the Cass Report condemnation of social transition, saying teachers are not clinicians plus the draft schools guidance where the consultation has just closed, gives me enough ammunition to say a) the policy needs to be revised again, but properly this time following parental consultation, and b) that this line above needs to be removed and any disclosure of a child to a teacher about "being trans" needs to be reported to the DSL and to parents unless there is a risk of harm from the parents to the child as a result.

I also want all teaching as gender ideology as fact removed from the PSHE curriculum, or if it is presented, to be clearly identified as a contested ideological position with the opposite position equally presented (that some people don't think gender identity exists). I hope the Cass Report helps me with this too - that this concept should not be presented as fact to children because of the now-identified "schools to clinics" pipeline.

@MrsMurphyIWish I have actually been approached by one of my DCs form teacher privately who asked what I was up to as she had seen me go into a meeting with the Deputy Head - I nervously explained, thinking I might be getting in trouble, and she put up her hand to her mouth, leaned in and hissed "please, don't stop, keep going!!!"

I wonder how the big education law companies are advising Multi Academy Trusts? MATs typically have leadership that shake like a shitting dog unless any decision they make is agreed by an accountant or a lawyer. I know that Stone King who are a leading education firm are full of TWAW millennials who are all about affirmation and rainbows without any balance of other protected characteristics. This may take time to filter through.

I’m waiting for pronouns to disappear and ‘training’ charities who have been in to indoctrinate staff will be black listed and never darken our door again.

The team I work in spent the day reviewing sen cases in schools and half of them were autistic girls with they/them pronouns.

The team will probably have no time to digest any off the cass stuff because they are so behind on casework they have no time to think.

Change will need to be mandated from above. Hopefully cass is the route to that but it will take a couple of decades to change the practice of EPs and everyone involved in special educational needs sector.

Brainwashing doctination

I couldn't understand how years ago Lobotomy operations could have been even thought of or consirdered

Seemed unbelievable 😕

Now on know real life is often more weird than ever an imaginative best selling author or film producer 🤔 could ever dream up ...

I'm an educational psychologist and this is how I'm feeling:
https://x.com/ClaireMcguiggan/status/1778015297833709731

I feel relieved there is now a clear foundation to challenge within the profession and pratice in schools. But the EP response to the school guidance 2 weeks ago was so shamefully activist led, and there was no resposne or push back from the profession, it was horribly revealing.

And as @DrRuthGalloway said the EP training courses are captured as is the BPS is, so I'm pretty despondent about the profession.

I feel contempt for all the child psychologists and EPs who've gone along with this, and who still are.

I have been watching for institutional change due to recent changes in social discourse. Its limited TBH. Likely Cass review will land with colleagues but my Trust/regulators? not so much.

Couple of weeks ago I got email from NMC equating GC beliefs with veganism..whilst this is a huge turnaround on their previous intolerance for GC talking points.. it was a bit ridiculousto read. That being said fairly certain the NMC would be nowhere to be seen in supporting colleagues with GC beliefs. I left union because they were intolerant and I don't know what their current positions are.

My trust DIE forum refers only to gender not sex (gender identity, gender and sexual orientation) ..this is a relatively new development ( appearing to have attempted to make improvements in the DIE intranet pages). So I'm not optimistic. Although when I fact checked before posting this, i noticed that the photo and profile of the man (assistant DIE lead) who was leading the 'gender' pages is no longer there and the page looks quite different to what it did last week. But it's still firmly gender identity, gender and sexual orientation.

Top link is still stonewall and mermaids not far behind on these specific DIE pages.

We get frequent reminder to consider adding pronouns to badges/email signature and supporting narrative about why this is a good idea. Some do. Most don't.

A month or so ago our trust hosted menopause session for staff. It was delivered by trans man and referred to trans people experiencing menopause too. But no reference to treatment inducing early menopause in children and young adults - or anything useful in terms of being menopausal and holding down work. so that was disappointing.

A snr collague nee of mermaids, hid that association quite some time ago now. I wish he hadn't hidden it , but instead made a repentant statement or some sort of mea culpa. That being said I would probably accuse him of reverse ferreting if he did.

Trust has never recalled our 'this is us' campaign visuals - this is a bring your whole self to work campaign with Banners/screen savers, posters covered in symbology/flags to represent our organisation. Apparently the campaign was informed by staff diversity records. Bear gender flag was/is on the campaign material, gay men are not - which is ridiculous in a healthcare setting.

I'm not massively optimistic . It all feels a bit disingenuous. The trust and healthcare are not being candid, but are rather pulling a rug over what was once quite blatant madness.

I am reflecting again today that the single biggest thing I took for my own practice from Time to Think was the risks of continuing to work in a service that was overwhelmed, and the importance of speaking up. That's not just about GIDS.