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News commentary on the Cass Report

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HagoftheNorth · 10/04/2024 07:29

Thread to record where and when to find tv/radio commentary on the Cass report, so that it is easy for people to find it on catchup. If you’re listening/watching and it comes up, please record the channel/show and the time

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SiobhanSharpe · 10/04/2024 13:32

The Guardian piece is disgracefully one-sided and completely ignores the awful
experiences of detransitioners like Keira Bell.

nauticant · 10/04/2024 13:32

Well, Cass got about half of the 45 minutes of the programme.

It seems like there's a conflict going on at the BBC in terms of how to cover this story.

MagpiePi · 10/04/2024 13:32

StephanieSuperpowers · 10/04/2024 13:28

Well yes. He's saying that young people are accurately able to describe their state of mind and wishes at a moment in time. What, as an adult, he should be aware of, is that young people don't have the development to reliably predict whether this is a permanent state of mind and don't have the life experience to understand that your state of mind can change, especially when you're young.

Ah yes, that old, children know their own minds when it comes to going down an irreversible medical treatment path
...but not when it comes to things like drinking alcohol, taking drugs, getting tattoos, entering in to sexual realtionships, driving on public roads, entering into contracts, whether they are actually a cat, deciding they are going to marry mummy when they grow up.
It's weird isn't it?

Edit: Sorry, meant to quote CriticalCondition

CriticalCondition · 10/04/2024 13:29

Kelly says he's the only independent under-18 service regulated by CQC. Nice little advert there.

WarriorN · 10/04/2024 13:29

Watershed moment is being used a lot.

Hugh Pym again

WarriorN · 10/04/2024 13:28

CriticalCondition · 10/04/2024 13:26

Kelly says young people know their own minds.

How would he explain the massive safeguarding issue that's been happening in the NE whereby y6 children have been in a WhatsApp and daring each other to make suicide attempts and rate themselves based on what damage they did "made it to a and e, liver damage" etc ?

Do they know their own minds? Really?

StephanieSuperpowers · 10/04/2024 13:28

CriticalCondition · 10/04/2024 13:26

Kelly says young people know their own minds.

Well yes. He's saying that young people are accurately able to describe their state of mind and wishes at a moment in time. What, as an adult, he should be aware of, is that young people don't have the development to reliably predict whether this is a permanent state of mind and don't have the life experience to understand that your state of mind can change, especially when you're young.

MagpiePi · 10/04/2024 13:28

I can't believe he's being allowed to do what is little more than an adverstising slot

MarieDeGournay · 10/04/2024 13:28

Sky News 1 o'clock - Cass report 'welcomed' by.. Mermaids and Stonewall!
Interpreted criticism of care for 'trans' children as that there wasn't enough of it/wasn't prompt enough/wasn't respectful enough, not that it was poorly researched and based on flimsy evidence.

RTE TV[Irish state broadcaster] New 1 o'clock - their London correspondent John Kilraine focused on the report's criticism of the use of puberty blockers and hormones for young people, the lack of evidence re long-term effects, and the failure to consider other issues such as autism, mental health issues etc.
I'll see if I can get a link to that segment later.

Did they read the same report?😠

WarriorN · 10/04/2024 13:27

He's saying that GIDs here was more conservative than other countries.

I don't care, just because they're dishing pbs out like smarties doesn't make what happened at GIDs ok.

MagpiePi · 10/04/2024 13:26

nauticant · 10/04/2024 13:23

Now it's Dr Aidan Kelly, someone who makes a living out of transing kids.

"Lets wait until there's good evidence before we change anything."

"Other countries were prescribing far more PBs than the UK, so it must be a good thing"

CriticalCondition · 10/04/2024 13:26

Kelly says young people know their own minds.

WarriorN · 10/04/2024 13:26

The interviewer is challenging him over affirmative approaches.

He's slippery

"Long comprehensive assessments"

Bs

WarriorN · 10/04/2024 13:24

Hannah Barnes politely pointed out he was making money out of these kids on WH

nauticant · 10/04/2024 13:23

Now it's Dr Aidan Kelly, someone who makes a living out of transing kids.

CriticalCondition · 10/04/2024 13:23

They describe everything we've read about on this board for years. Thank god it's being broadcast on national radio. Those poor parents.

WarriorN · 10/04/2024 13:23

"Adult services doesn't have the same safeguards" they are terrified .

"And hope that the waiting list is so long that she doesn't get seen."

MrsOvertonsWindow · 10/04/2024 13:22

BBC 1 headlined Cass on the lunchtime news. Decent coverage but of course their idea of "balance" was to include a tedious segment from a sad transwoman talking about their experiences.

nauticant · 10/04/2024 13:22

Unfortunately it seems like their daughter is still completely enmeshed in the gender stuff.

Gangstamummy · 10/04/2024 13:22

They sound like wonderful parents

Gangstamummy · 10/04/2024 13:21

BritishBeatleMania · 10/04/2024 13:18

This radio 4 segment is horrifying

It is everything MN has been saying for years - amazing to hear it in the mainstream (finally)

CriticalCondition · 10/04/2024 13:21

This interview with parents on R4 is describing firsthand their nightmare. It's terrifying.

BritishBeatleMania · 10/04/2024 13:18

This radio 4 segment is horrifying

nauticant · 10/04/2024 13:17

This is a highly illuminating segment on Radio 4 about failures of medical and social services.

WarriorN · 10/04/2024 13:17

Oh fucking hell, social services affirmed the child "you are a 13 year old boy born into a girls body." In a letter to her

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