News commentary on the Cass Report

Not sure if this has been linked - an excellent article from Lucy Bannerman at the Times joining up the dots about the culpability of Gendered Intelligence, GIRES, Stonewall and Mermaids. Hopefully we'll see public funding for them dry up in the next year as their involvement in this scandal is highlighted. Share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dd694117-9c23-46ff-8974-be360680e5e4?shareToken=21a875fedcb0e5a5e3de1974e6116b24

Yeah, it's brilliant that there is a place where AD has apparently been free to track this as he sees fit. He's not just dogged about this, he's very good at platforming all sides and doing his research and letting people say what they actually mean.

Free Speech Nation on GB News is going to be all over this, I imagine. Whatever you think of GB News, Andrew Doyle has been EXCELLENT on this issue.

( it's on at 7pm on a Sunday, if pp haven't seen it )

That's a shame. I imagine Sinead is probably at risk of getting a bit sweary too.

I imagine I would be the same if I had to talk about doctors removing my reproductive organs when I was mentally unwell.

Ah so not medically trained at all then.

@MissScarletInTheBallroom unfortunately Ritchie was bbc deplatformed after getting a bit too sweary with a researcher.

I noted that on Woman’s Hour yesterday the word “invested” was used twice by either Emma or Hannah Barnes when referring to Mr Aidan Kelly: as pointed out, he runs a private “gender clinic” so his income and professional reputation rely on the shaky unscientific notion of “gender identity” and providing medical treatment (his clinic prescribes PBs) in the search for this elusive “gender identity” for adolescents.

It was good to hear Hannah Barnes focus on the exponential growth over the last ten years in teenage girls coming forward for treatment. I really hope to hear this being explored in more depth in the mainstream media rather than yesterday’s Ch4 video report which perpetuated the “trans child” narrative.

The Irish Independent had two articles about it.

The first, published yesterday, led with the views of BeLonGTo (Irish LGBT charity focused on children & young people) who misrepresented the Cass Report and gave the impression it supported their crusade for more medical intervention, and only really explained Cass's findings in the second half of a long article. It was reprinted from The Independent UK, which I think explains why it was so misleading (lots of good UK newspapers but that isn't one).
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/irelands-belongto-responds-to-uk-cass-report-we-urgently-need-gender-care-for-young-trans-people/a501606620.html

Second one, published today, written by Ellen Coyne who is an Irish Independent writer, is better and leads with the findings of the Cass report, represents them more clearly, and includes a shorter quote from BeLonGTo at the end.
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/uk-report-will-influence-policy-on-healthcare-for-transgender-children-here/a322594160.html

So BeLonGTo are doubling down and happy to mislead the public about the evidence base and rationale for medical and social transitioning.
BeLonGTo were one of the signatories of the infamous letter calling for Irish GC women to be denied political and media representation. A few years back, but after they'd signed the letter, An Post were donating a percentage of the sales from Pride-themed postal stamps to this organisation.

He’s a clinical psychologist and his doctorate is in psychology.

Also, according to his bio on here, a member of WAPATH.

https://www.genderplus.com/team

I'd love to see people like Ritchie Herron and Sinead Watson interviewed on the news.

I'm quite shocked that's there's been so little mention of detransitioned people.

But is that deliberate, to not weaponise?

I also didn't see the very effective argument that if adults can regret and realise it wasn't what would help them, how can we expect children who have much more immature brains and cognitive reasoning skills to "know their minds?"

Surgeons go by Mr though, is he definitely not medically trained?

Absolutely. The interview with Aidan Kelly was infuriating and I noted Dr David Bell specifically referred to Kelly as Mr Kelly - I hadn't realised Kelly isn't a medical doctor.

Channel 4 have been Guardian-like in their biased coverage of trans issues in the past but Krishnan Guru-Murthy was generally quite a good interviewer.

And he allowed Dr Bell to correct the picture presented by Mr Kelly, before he answered K G-M's question.

I came here to say the same about Channel 4 news last night. Their opening intro to the story took exactly the same angle, although in this case it was a teenage girl and her mum with the addition of a sad-faced journo interviewing them. It was infuriating. I don’t think the reporter had grasped some of the core findings from the Cass report re children needing a holistic approach wrt mental health and autism assessments. Or she deliberately overlooked them for the sake of the “sad teenage victim” angle she was clearly trying to bludgeon viewers with.

They redeemed themselves though with a live interview with Dr “there’s so such thing as a trans child” Bell who, frankly, deserves an OBE.

Yes I’ve seen that on other similar videos on YouTube. Has anyone seen that kind of thing for other topics?

This is the next stage. Considerations for those people who actively mislead and didn't due diligence in the safe guarding roles and the possibility of criminal charges.

Big big questions for me about adult services withholding information. There's no earthly reason to do so if you support evidence based medicine - unless you are fairly concerned that there's something amiss. This is backside covering.

How Susie Green was able to refer and pressure for medication without any medical qualifications.

Then there's the whole Polly Carmichael question.

How Stonewall law was able to become so widespread and no one thought to check on the quality of its advice and no one noticed that it's very definition of homosexuality is homophobic.

How political parties themselves have acted to try and silence whistleblowers and disenfranchise women from political participation.

We need to keep going...

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0hq26wn

A whole episode of Newscast on the Cass Review, led by Adam Fleming and with Dr Hilary Cass interviewed too. Newscast have a lot of younger listeners so I was interested in the angle they took. Turned out to be very much - young people have been let down, treatments should be evidence based, this hasn't happened in gender clinics. Balanced, got the main points out there I think. No mention of higher numbers of girls etc though.

They've got receipts from mermaids, Stonewall, GiRES and gendered intelligence in that article.

Finally. These people are being held accountable in the press.

I can’t believe YouTube have attached a warning about conversion therapy from the American Trevor Project to this BMJ video. What idiot at YouTube thinks that’s an appropriate thing to do?!

Do you by any chance have a TAMHS person in your school - ie a part time CAMHS implant. I tried for years to get DD diagnosed and only happened because the TAMHS person kept an eye on DD and recognised how much she was struggling. Then insisted that CAMHS saw her for diagnosis.

How charities and web fuelled ten-year rise of gender transition

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/dd694117-9c23-46ff-8974-be360680e5e4?shareToken=7cab1319d6006c94ee8f7b810ac84b51

Which is why we're in this mess because these the BBC have continually enabled self interested transactivists to drown out the need to safeguard children and provide safe evidenced healthcare.

Exactly.

Just watching the interview with Hannah the transwoman on Newsnight, having earlier heard Amelia on PM: have any news outlets interviewed any transmen today? I’d have thought this would be especially relevant given the big increase in female patients at Gids.

Newsnight discussing it now.

The story also led on The World Tonight on Radio 4. This is one of the serious Radio 4 news programmes, not like the PM programme.

Obviously they had the obligatory transwoman on first saying that the worst possible thing to happen would be slower or lesser medical interventions.

The programme approached lots of doctors and institutions but none would talk with them. But they did get a single GP willing to speak with them. He was uncertain saying that doctors were operating in the dark. He seemed to think that doctors understand the impacts of puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones but didn't understand those in the long term.

The female presenter put the "toxicity of the debate" to him, which he strongly agreed with but she didn't ask him anything about the source or nature of the toxicity.

One of the biggest problems he'd dealt with was trans people taking offence but he presented that as his own failing. But he was willing to say that gender identity co-exists with other mental health problems.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13291703/Meet-doctors-doled-puberty-blockers-generation-vulnerable-children.html

Piece on Polly Carmichael, the Webberleys, Aidan Kelly. Also Heather Wood who I hadn’t heard of before.