Final Report Cass Review now published

It makes for fascinating (horrifying) reading and I too thank mumsnet for the contribution of posters and more likely the catalyst/support they gave to those brave people who put their heads above the parapets to raise concerns about GIDS.

I haven't posted often but one section stood out to me as a non-health but nevertheless professional who has had serious concerns about trans-health care albeit it for vulnerable adults. At 114 in the summary it states that clinical staff need broad based skills - and at other sections confirms patients must be treated holistically.

This must be replicated for adults too. I had cause to write to a clinic with grave concerns about the mental health and mental capacity of someone receiving treatment from them and requested they complete a certificate of litigation capacity for the work i was connected with. The reply...
Capacity is presumed,
we have no-one qualified to complete
and essentially we'll shut our eyes as to whether there may be underlying mental health diagnosis contributing to apparent gender dysphoria and go full steam ahead with irreversible treatments.

Outrageous.

I see amnesty are still determined to behave like utter fuckwits

Wtf is that response from Amnesty? They are quite clearly not prioritising what is best for children and young people by that statement. I wonder who's running this charity these days?

Oh dear, oh dear, Amnesty. <shakes head>

Well thanks to Cass we will all have to be serial flashers. TRA’s and handmaidens will come on here and say where is your evidence and/or here is my thoughts/evidence and we can all flash Cass, section xxx, so stuff that up ya jumper.

Or maybe they will not bother us anymore and we can concentrate on the pushback.

Also i think it has far reaching implications as in another flash we see, die, die, die, labour self ID, die, die, die, conversion therapy bill, (not a comprehensive list).

Hoo fucking ray!!!

Probably!

Absolutely this.

Yes @Vod

Also, does this mean that Sweden and Finland are now right wing purely on transgenderism, despite their social model being far more progressive in terms of equality and redistributive taxation than the mainstream Democratic Party?

There are indeed two sides. But please stop trying to pretend there are two roughly equivalent sides on this issue. (I was going to say ‘this debate’, but the trans side has spent years demanding that there be ‘no debate’.)

The TRAs send death threats, bully people out of their jobs and livelihoods, intimidate venues into cancelling women’s bookings, bring crowds to scream at women speaking, demand ‘rights’ that negate women’s human rights, and pour out a constant, endless stream of vitriolic abuse. Etc etc etc

Gender realists and feminists say ‘We need to talk about this’ and ‘children should not be sterilised’ and ‘confused teenage girls should be allowed counselling before having elective mastectomies’. Etc.

Not two equivalent sides in a debate.

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Could not agree with you more!!!!

I listened to the Today programme this morning, driving to work and the pm programme coming home.

This morning we had a trans woman (man) and the mother of a "daughter" (boy/man) and this evening we have had a trans woman (man) from Pink News.

It's ridiculous. Really disgraceful lack of curiosity and fair representation of other points of view. Why no detransitioner like Kiera Bell or Ritchie or others who are vocal. Why no parents whose child/children got sucked in to this through school and social transition and mermaids ?

Really appalling reporting.

Absofuckinglutely. I blame US centrism for a lot of this nonsense, and people who think there's anything inherently left wing about genderist ideology are invariably affected by it to some degree. The European left contains more people who are better at structural analysis.

Next thing I would like to see is a bit of drilling down into the actual difference between the middle-aged men transitioning, and the children who showed up at GIDS.

Debbie H has told everybody about it being a sexual fetish, and yet, people are still reluctant to say it out loud.

Oh, pleased to hear David Bell being sensible and forthright on PM. Some balance, at least.

It's all they've got. They have to keep supplying these 'happy clappy trans children.'

And yes, they're despicable.

Yes - someone who apparently transitioned fairly recently, as an adult (MtF).

They could hardly have found someone less representative of the demographic of concern. Interviewer sympathetic and unquestioning throughout.

The BBC appears to be all over the place on this.

They really are the most despicable organisation. They still show transitioned kids telling their story on their website that reads more like an advertising campaign for Starbucks. All about the new name day on their Starbucks cup. Terrible.

Yep I'm worried that whilst the neurotypical teens seem increasingly bored and pissed off with trans stuff, this cohort will be more difficult. They're so vulnerable already (higher instances of sexual assault and abuse) and even more likely to rely on online spaces. I've been suspicious about indoctrination at after school sen youth provisions too, as they're often staffed by people not a whole lot older. Trans seems to offer such tantalising protection and power to kids who have often had very little autonomy over their lives and bodies. It offers belonging to kids who have only ever felt painfully different.

“The intention with the Cass review is to be neutral, but I think that neutral has maybe moved,” said Laurence Webb, a representative from Mermaids, a trans youth advocacy organization in Britain. “Extremist views have become much more normalized.”

Unfortunately for Mermaids they can no longer use the better a live daughter than a dead son emotional blackmail.

The Cass report has fucked up their leverage completely.