Final Report Cass Review now published

Pressed send too fast

But who counted this figure IW suggests and how is it counted?

I have to fight and wait years for treatment for my health conditions... as a woman, I encounter the world not being as easy for me as many every day as a disabled person... heck I get offered psych support for my pain management, because the drugs I take long term can cause negative consequences (even fatal) .... it's not possible that no trans person is not incapacitated in some form physically or mentally or also black or Jewish.. I'm just missing how you could compare populations that surely overlap and say they are equal in size?

Just wondering if anyone knows how the trans population is counted? To compare it to the Jewish population in the uk?

Who does it include? Non binary? Queer? Drag? Over 18s? Under 18s? Those accessing health services or those who aren't too? Are you included if you choose to socially transition only? Or at what point in a transition?

Like black or Jewish is very fixed ... you're born it and you stay it don't you?? but you can also be black or Jewish and supposedly any of the above too surely?

@Datun
It appears to be a reaction to the Stonewall statement at the top of their twitter account - lots of repostings of it from various people - which is being viewed as Stonewall selling out. It's the one that starts:

"The Cass Review, an independent review of gender care services for children and young people, has been published today after almost four years. We know that elements of the review and how it is covered in the news may cause concern for trans children and young people and their loved ones."

Good lord, what prompted that?

Perhaps it's the press saying things like this:

"Stonewall is at the heart of all this. Having won all the battles against legal discrimination of gay people — the reason we established it — it needed another cause to justify its continued existence. It used and squandered the trust, respect and position that gay people had spent years establishing to promote an aggressive and bullying campaign to promote their ‘no compromise’ position.

The Times tried to contact Ruth Hunt, who stepped down as chief executive of Stonewall in 2019, for her response to the Cass Review but she could not be reached for comment.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cass-report-gender-transition-mermaids-charities-web-kxp7fjcfj

Thank you so much for all the responses links @IwantToRetire

Amnesty🙄

Was the RCPCH the one that almost didn't allow CAN-SG conference or am I confusing them with a different organisation?

Thats a bit head on brow faint thing

From IW Twitter acc complete with White House Down film poster image. Extraordinary tone:

India Willoughby
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Stonewall is down. Stonewall has fallen. The coordinated well-funded attack on it by the Religious Right, Brit Media and the BBC - who astonishingly completely ignore the LGB Alliance - has taken its toll. You can tell they no longer have the stomach to fight.

I assume none have ever applied for an ASD/ADHD diagnosis because that’s a full on battle for years.

Thank you, much appreciated

A nice, straightforward, free downloadable book or audiobook about how trials are designed to be fair tests of interventions: Testing Treatments

https://www.testingtreatments.org/

The tools, methods and processes that have been standardised and validated to review and assess standards of clinical evidence are open and free to access.

https://training.cochrane.org/handbook/current/part-1

If the "healthcare" was harmful and ineffective as a treatment, black or Jewish people would be pleased it was being withdrawn

I wonder what surgeries black and Jewish people seek to affirm their race? I wonder what race-related distress they experience. Being born Jewish but identifying as Irish? Or perhaps a Black Irish person experiences race confusion and needs healthcare for this? Would practitioners immediately affirm them in their acquired race?

One of the shows I listened to today had a caller talking about trans people being the only group who have to fight to access treatment and who politicians interfere with. What planet are these people living on? HRT, fertility treatment, breast reduction for biomechanics reasons....

Yup. IW chose today of all days - presumably given that there wasn't much else on - to launch that.

The pain is the result of face feminisation surgery, apparently. Surgery that someone might end up with, having been put on a pathway...

Am buckling under the irony.

thank you @Karensalright

She provides a table of all the studies that were reviewed just scroll the report to find them.

While a considerable amount of research has been published in this field, systematic evidence reviews demonstrated the poor quality of the published studies, meaning there is not a reliable evidence base upon which to make clinical decisions, or for children and their families to make informed choices

Re the extract above from the review can anyone advise if the 'studies' in question have been listed anywhere ? I was wondering so that when Stonewall /Mermaids quote this study shows and that study shows etc. we can see that Dr Cass analysed those studies and found them to be a load of tosh

Sorry I quoted the wrong bit. That was for @ApocalipstickNow !

Thankyou so much for all the links @IwantToRetire - you have made my job of distilling the report and its implications for my team (including all the responses to it) so much easier!

Just checked and no, not that Mark Williams I'm pleased to say!

I don't know but I saw IW is busy with a gofundme page to get money so IW can get her dodgy eye fixed.

If the "healthcare" was harmful and ineffective as a treatment, black or Jewish people would be pleased it was being withdrawn.

Is that Mark Williams from the Fast Show replying to India Willoghby and if so what is he saying?

IW's rebarbative comparisons aside, how on earth did IW overlook that the BBC managed to showcase the finely honed insights of Freda Wallace (amongst others)?

Although it says a lot when the state of play for articulate representatives means that Freda is a go-to for researchers.

The level IW has stooped to. How can anyone think this way?