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Biology is not as simple as one might think trust me i am a biologist….

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Karensalright · 09/04/2024 17:27

Is it the case that those supporting gender ideology have developed a new tactic? Coming on here pretending to be a scientist stating their profession, and then proffering their expert knowledge via a link to wiki?

Surely if they were telling the truth they would link us to a peer review paper from a scientific website.

Is it a new trend or have I just cottoned on to it. In an attempt to influence new comers.

Replies and discussion gratefully appreciated, as long as you don't point out that i can be a bit thick..

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Peskysquirrel · 09/04/2024 17:51

Here:

FlemishHorse · Yesterday 00:29
Another biologist. 68, which is only relevant given the OP on this thread.

XX = female and XY = male is a simplification. The genes (which are subject to frequent random mutations, as all genes are) control the production of hormones in utero and at puberty, and these hormones control the development of sexual organs.

“In general, androgens are considered "male sex hormones", since they have masculinizing effects, while estrogens and progestogens are considered "female sex hormones"[6] although all types are present in each sex at different levels.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_hormone

I think it’s perfectly possible that some humans that present as men have “a sense of self” as female. I’m happy to accept that they are females, who have suffered a genetic/hormonal accident in their early development. And accept them with sympathy as women.

(I was a “tomboy” girl, actually prayed as a child to please let me wake up and be a boy. A rejection of the limitations imposed on girls in my generation. I’ve never been a conventionally girly women. But I’ve never had any “sense of self” as anything but female.)

Sex hormone - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_hormone

Karensalright · 09/04/2024 17:50

@Datun It was on that thread about older people not accepting gender ID it closed before i could comment but noted a person purporting to be a biologist and suggesting in a very surreptitious way that things were more complicated than we think. It was almost benign.

” I am 68 and a biologist….” Can’t recall how they framed it but was sneaky.

Am having my tea in a mo but will look for it

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lonelywater · 09/04/2024 17:49

This is, and remains, dead simple. Ask any of these gender loons "show me one bona fide and attested instance of anyone at all ever changing sex-anytime, anywhere". Game over. (p.s.-fuck of with your clownfish)

ItsFunToBeAVampire · 09/04/2024 17:47

To be blunt, I assume anyone willing to say TWAW will lie about anything else to further their cause, so I don't doubt that people who say they're biologists (or whatever authority) are lying.

That's why it's so dangerous for politicians, governments and the police to say it. I now don't trust any of them (not that I had a lot of trust in the first place, but it's totally gone now).

There are definite trends that ripple through the TRA arguments, at one time I kept seeing the phrase 'stochastic terrorism' everywhere on TRA Twitter, they've just moved onto the new trend now. One prominent TRA says something and then it gets parroted by the others that outsource their thinking.

Datun · 09/04/2024 17:44

Coming on here pretending to be a scientist stating their profession, and then proffering their expert knowledge via a link to wiki?

is that recent? I missed it too 😀

Sexism does tend to give some people the impression that mumsnet can't possibly have any members who are scientists (or doctors, lawyers, journalists...etc)

Karensalright · 09/04/2024 17:43

Not on twits, off to find the link on here that made me think

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AlisonDonut · 09/04/2024 17:43

They never tell us what the third gamete is and it's role in procreation.

Until they do, I'm just going to keep asking that question when I see their nonsense.

popebishop · 09/04/2024 17:42

Social Media posts of this type ("biology is complicated actually, and I'm going pretend there aren't two sexes") have been doing the rounds for years.
Most people posting them don't have very good critical thinking skills.

RainWithSunnySpells · 09/04/2024 17:38

Ooh, I must have missed this (I sometimes regret not being on X/Twitter). Do you have a link to an example of this? I'd quite like to read it (and the pages thay link to) for the LOLs. 😆

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