Deluge of hate crime complaints overwhelming Scottish police

I have not reported any hateful hate crimes this week yet………

Footage here of Polis Scotland responding to a misgendering in Glasgow on Saturday night:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9x6x82y2r3o

I remember during the Trump administration in the US there were some laws that the Obama admin brought in thinking only they would be able to use them to their advantage (might have been around filibustering/supreme court stuff).

There was a lot of discussion at the time about how you always need to think carefully about what your opposition will do with any laws you bring in. I feel like this applies here too and they were warned, repeatedly.

This sounds like standard conspiracy theorising to distract from what an absolute shitshow the whole policy is.

The extreme right wing bogeyman to be blamed for everything.

Yes, some are real hate crimes and some are "at it".

Is it like genuine trans and performative trans and the real world consequences of not being able to tell one from the other?

@NoisySnail is that not what they said though? You can't say that's not a hate crime, it's anyones' perception even if not involved, or do you think only 'the Right Sort' are allowed to report a hate crime?

Never a truer word! But the Right sort has to be reported by the Right Sort?

its a terrible piece of legislation - regardless of anyone’s views on gender identity/ideology. What is happening now could have been (and in fact was) predicted by anyone with half a brain.

I don't think it matters in the slightest whether reports are genuine and heartfelt, mass generated trolling or everything in-between. When a ludicrous law is created in which self perception is king and the final word in what is offensive then this is what you get.

@NoisySnail
So to be racist againt a white person is different to being racist against a non white person?
Isn't that itself racist? Treating people differently based on the colour of their skin.

Was it extreme far right wingers who reported JKR to Police Scotland for transphobia?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001y1xb

Radio 4 Today from about 8:34am a police rep talking about this debacle.

Gosh. That sounds like they've created a right mess with this new law, doesn't it?

I'm inclined to agree with Jack McConnell, it sounds unworkable. They'd best get on and repeal it.

As I said this is why the police are inundated with complaints. It is a campaign by far right wing groups. Link this time as requested.

"Last week, the leader of one English far-right group is said to have urged members to 'mass report' hate crime complaints of 'anti-white' hate to police, The Observer reported.
Members were also reportedly told that a particular claim from a former local councillor that 'people of colour, disabled people, LGBT+ people' were most likely to be impacted by hate crime 'because it's probably happened to them' 'singled out white men as evil'."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13282007/Police-complaints-Scotlands-new-hate-crime-law.html

This is wonderful!
Hoping the complaints continue at this pace, or increase, so I can put my feet up and watch it play out 😊.

'Harvie claimed opponents of the change “deliberately try to pretend every expression of prejudice or just nastiness or anything offensive or hurtful is going to be criminalised”, adding: “As soon as the Act comes into force they start performatively coming out with these prejudiced, hurtful statements and saying ‘arrest me, arrest me’ in this petulant manner.'

'Petulant'? That's quite rude, Patrick.

“Then when they don’t get arrested they try to claim some hollow victory.
“It really is performative nonsense. If it was just a game they were playing it would be shallow and silly and trivial, but it has real world consequences.”

How does he know which reports are genuine and which are performative?

I'm sure there's some truth in this however it's not like this couldn't have been anticipated. Many, many people pointed out the flaws in this legislation.

If you as a government create a law entirely based on people being able to report on the basis of feelings of offence, even 2nd or 3rd hand offence then this is what you end up with.

I have zero sympathy. They created this.

I'm lying down in a dark room clutching a pint of Baileys.

If it's true that Police Scotland's reason for not proceeding further than merely logging the complaint was that the complainant was not Jewish, and therefore not directly affected, then that is a nonsense under the legislation and Scottish Government's own guidance, which says "If you have been targeted because of your disability, race, religion, sexual orientation or transgender identity, or you are aware of someone else being targeted, we want you to report it." (My bolding)

If only someone could have foreseen this outcome!

Are you referring to the thousands of people who raised a complaint regarding Humza Yousaf's speech? I think people who complained didn't need a far right group instructing them.

Who are these 'extreme right wing groups'?

Do you think some people should not report hate crimes?

Do you have a source for complaints disaggregated by characteristics protected under the legislation existing prior to 1st April (since race is not included in the new legislation)?

Also further disaggregated by specific race?

Let me guess, discerning if it's the Right Sort of Hate depends on the person reporting it?