Cass review - out on Wednesday

The theoretic name is relativist ontology and suggests that reality is what is perceived and doesn't exist independently of human thought. This fits with the idea that trans, woman, research is whatever people think it to be.

Makes sense that they go down that route.

It's how evidence reviews are done.

A nice, straightforward, free downloadable book or audiobook: Testing Treatments

https://www.testingtreatments.org/

The tools, methods and processes are open and free to access. People have had decades to critique them if they wish.

https://training.cochrane.org/handbook/current/part-1

• All these TRA saying Cass is methodologically flawed, can they elaborate on how and why?

I'm curious. It doesn't seem to come with the necessary accompanying explanation.*

Believe it or not, a lot has been written about decolonising (and queering) psychology. The thinking here is that other cultures can show us much better 'ways of knowledge' and western notions of scientific study is oppressive and one dimensional.

The theoretic name is relativist ontology and suggests that reality is what is perceived and doesn't exist independently of human thought. This fits with the idea that trans, woman, research is whatever people think it to be.

Yes.

'The guidelines were put in place last year by the Scottish Sentencing Council and backed by SNP ministers, with provisions that under-25s should only go to prison when a court is satisfied no other sentence is appropriate.

The guidelines made rehabilitation rather than punishment a primary consideration.'

It was intended for minor offences but astoundingly has been applied to at least two rape cases.

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-urged-to-review-sentencing-guidelines-as-scottish-rapist-of-13-year-old-teen-avoids-jail-as-kc-labels-sentence-extraordinary-4092183

It's this kind of stuff:

https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1777755823743054120

All these TRA saying Cass is methodologically flawed, can they elaborate on how and why?

I'm curious. It doesn't seem to come with the necessary accompanying explanation.

There is a lot of scrabbling going on. Yvette Cooper decided to go down the rabbit hole!

Bit of DARVO by Emma there and some frantic scrabbling to keep Labour onside.

@RedToothBrush

I've never in my life shouted abuse at an inanimate object the way I did today. (The inanimate object being my radio, although JV....)

I can't wait for OJs piece about how he'd always been in favour of evidence based trans medicine and he has a poster of JKR on his wall because he loves her that much.

"Trans health is so shit"

Right. Here's some research and some evidence based reviewing.

"No. No. That research is not saying what I want."

This is a formal independent review following robust accepted protocols on evidence based medicine

"It's too gender critical. Why haven't you listened to transpeople?"

Actually the Review did. It reflected on many aspects but noted the level of anger and intimidation involved and that a number of the crucial claims about suicide and treatment being unproblematic and affirmation only were, to put it bluntly, a load of utter bollocks. And that pretty much everything the good women of MN said was problematic, unethical and unscientific was in fact errrr problematic, unethical and ermm yes unscientific

"Everything I don't like is transphobic wahhhhhwahhhhhwahhhhh"

Yeah we worked out it's like trying to reason with a bunch of toddlers so time ago.

I also saw Keira Bell
Posted a 'thank you' for the report. She's an incredible young woman and the flak she took during the court case was appalling. Thank you Keira.

I've noticed that the usual male critics are quickly throwing in other people's posts debunking this rather than their own views (Bragg and Jones for example, they seem to be posting less and less in women's rights now, curiously enough...) - not enough for them that this is a highly researched and factual document and that there are so many rational posts on twitter saying "you know what, now it's time to stop with all the arguing and try to do the right thing by those children to prevent this from happening again."

'saying it's transphobic'

Is that Erin Reed doing some 'debunking' again?

I particularly like the add on reply after the thread where she burns the idiot who said she'd done no research!

Some screenshots....

I rather like the fact the Cass Review has a whole section on what makes a good study and what makes a bad study and the hierarchy of different types of research.

It's like Research for Dummies. And the reaction saying it's transphobic in that context only serve the findings of the Cass Review, highlight who has read it and which idiots should definitely not be listened to. In a formalised way.

Not sure if there is a separate thread but wow. This woman has a way with words... It's almost like she has a gift.

Phenomenal post from JKR on X:
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1778105223728255439?t=Mrq1-X7A6TTTRSHqN9yjkg&s=19

I thought it was a time bomb! My eyesight...

The Independent has a paywall?

@IcakethereforeIam apparently they have written an article for the Independent - it’s behind a paywall so I can’t access it.

I think there is also a prevailing view amongst TRAs that the only evidence worth anything is lived experience (experts through experience). I think this is because they operate from the position that the goal of intervention is transition (I presume they assume this will also deliver wellbeing). Cass is operating from the position that the goal is wellbeing and does not assume that transition will or won't deliver this.

They are very limited in their thinking and understanding of the wider lens. Once gender is in the frame, nothing else seems to matter.

Yes, perfectly put.

I went to a dinosaur museum (well prehistoric marine reptile museum this morning) it didn't take long to look round it, so we went to a nearby tank museum. I wondered if I might run into R... a certain someone so I could laugh in his face.

Fortunately, probably for both of us, if he was there I didn't see him.

It is decidedly so.