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Joe Lycett

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MotherEarthisaTerf · 05/04/2024 20:40

Joe Lycett admitting to abusing the free press by planting fake news - in order to suppress news stories he doesn’t like

https://www.itv.com/news/2024-04-05/joe-lycett-reveals-hes-behind-multiple-fake-national-news-stories

#nodebate

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Alaina7 · 07/04/2024 12:14

MrsJamin · 07/04/2024 05:49

He mocks women who are concerned with trans ideology. I just wonder whether he's used this opportunity to either silence women or promote "trans rights".

Why do I suspect this might be it…

Freysimo · 07/04/2024 07:51

ArabellaScott · 06/04/2024 07:42

Yes, a bit. Although I don't think BBC verify is going to dedicate a crack team to fluff stories.

I don't know, they might. BBC Verify has a huge team and for what? Isn't it the BBC's actual job to make sure their news is correct?

RedHelenB · 07/04/2024 07:37

Cazpar · 06/04/2024 10:04

"For the last month, me and my team have been planting stupid, silly fake news stories, about things that never actually happened in the hope that they would take up space that more hateful or polarising fake news might otherwise have used."

He's not trying to suppress any genuine news stories.

He's always been one for big pranks. This isn't odd for him. And frankly it shines a light on how little due diligence our media does on stories they print. The Telegraph is particularly bad for it, the Mail actually less so in my opinion.

This.

CurlewKate · 07/04/2024 06:48

I once did an emergency stop for a crisp packet....

I don't understand this story. Obviously he doesn't think the news will get "full" if he plants stories about hedgehogs....

MrsJamin · 07/04/2024 05:49

FearMe · 05/04/2024 22:39

He's bi. And what does him having some fun by planting stupid news stories have to do with listening to women?

He mocks women who are concerned with trans ideology. I just wonder whether he's used this opportunity to either silence women or promote "trans rights".

zzplea · 06/04/2024 16:06

I thought in the story of the hedgehog/bobble hat the photo was set up after they realised it wasn't a hedgehog, just as a humorous illustration of the story?

I think this could backfire on him - who will believe anything he says in future?

MotherEarthisaTerf · 06/04/2024 15:22

BiologicalKitty · 06/04/2024 11:33

Joe is a massive, massive troll. This is his thing. I'm not sure it's a surprise, is it? He admits to trolling people all the time!

Yes he trolls. And I’d understand if his prank was meant to highlight how easy it is to fill papers with fake news and fluff, that papers need to fact check better.

But that’s not why. He wants to fill the news because he doesn’t like the opinion pieces in them. He wants to leave less space for chatter.

Because he doesn’t like the chatter. If he did, he wouldn’t try and suppress it.

I think that’s outrageous. He’s got a team of people being paid to fill the news with pure shite so that they have less space to print what they’d like - what the public likes to read about. For any purpose I don’t think that’s right.

I might not like the news channel GB News but if someone drove round a signal blocker to stop people watching it I’d think that was shitty too.

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Sizzlysausage · 06/04/2024 15:03

People like Joe Lycett give me bad vibes. Can I say that? They remind me of the kind of boys (they were generally boys, girls did a different kind of mean) who would take the piss out of certain people in really quite cruel ways. Obviously, I have no way of knowing if he is or would have been like that but I do think his 'trolling' can seem that way sometimes. It's the kind of practical joke that in a way is designed to fool other people and make him look superior/clever but is rarely that funny. I can think of a whole load of other celebs who are similar. I won't name all the names here but I wasn't remotely surprised for example about Rebel Wilson's recent claims about Sascha Baron Cohen - he always seemed cruel too, which I know is meant to be part of his act, but I just found ... cruel. Anyway, slight derail, apologies for that.

ArabellaScott · 06/04/2024 11:43

The fact that he says "hateful" or "polarising" is key because we know what he's talking about; any negative news articles about certain groups of people.

It's a weird way of referring to news. News is either factual or not. He might have said 'misleading' or 'inaccurate', but he's not. He's used emotive terms.

BiologicalKitty · 06/04/2024 11:33

Joe is a massive, massive troll. This is his thing. I'm not sure it's a surprise, is it? He admits to trolling people all the time!

MarieDeGournay · 06/04/2024 11:30

Alaina7 · 06/04/2024 10:33

Really can’t decide whether he’s funny/clever or just gives me the ick. I think it’s the latter.

Or, irritatingly, both, as is not infrequently the case in the world of entertainment!

Alaina7 · 06/04/2024 10:33

Really can’t decide whether he’s funny/clever or just gives me the ick. I think it’s the latter.

PaperWalkAndTalk · 06/04/2024 10:28

Cazpar · 06/04/2024 10:04

"For the last month, me and my team have been planting stupid, silly fake news stories, about things that never actually happened in the hope that they would take up space that more hateful or polarising fake news might otherwise have used."

He's not trying to suppress any genuine news stories.

He's always been one for big pranks. This isn't odd for him. And frankly it shines a light on how little due diligence our media does on stories they print. The Telegraph is particularly bad for it, the Mail actually less so in my opinion.

I recently found out from Joe Lycett that "gullible" isn't in the dictionary.

Calling stuff "fake" news is used by everyone to discredit real news. The fact that he says "hateful" or "polarising" is key because we know what he's talking about; any negative news articles about certain groups of people.

I don't believe the media lie (to an extent), but their power comes from what they report and refuse to report. As these boards have shown, a lot of serious stories the media simply refuse to report. Most media outlets won't report on detransition and we know trans pressure groups have told media outlets to only report on positive trans stories and to never report on detransition.

Perhaps he could do some serious work and expose the legal loopholes that allow male sex offenders to pretend to be trans just before their trials?

Cazpar · 06/04/2024 10:04

"For the last month, me and my team have been planting stupid, silly fake news stories, about things that never actually happened in the hope that they would take up space that more hateful or polarising fake news might otherwise have used."

He's not trying to suppress any genuine news stories.

He's always been one for big pranks. This isn't odd for him. And frankly it shines a light on how little due diligence our media does on stories they print. The Telegraph is particularly bad for it, the Mail actually less so in my opinion.

PaperWalkAndTalk · 06/04/2024 10:04

Be kind he self-identifies as a comedian.

RoyalCorgi · 06/04/2024 09:59

So, what's the big reveal? Is it going to turn out that the ludicrous Scottish Hate Crime Act is going to turn out to be a Joe Lycett prank?

Cancelledcurio · 06/04/2024 09:42

I imagine this is one of his made up stories to get attention because he is about as funny as brain cancer...
What a tedious knob.

Fenlandia · 06/04/2024 09:38

Does Joe Lycett know that websites, unlike newspapers, don't have a storage limit?? And that the hacks working to publish fluff pieces aren't generally the same ones who might publish stories about gender ideology?

ApocalipstickNow · 06/04/2024 08:01

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 06/04/2024 01:43

Well, I rescued two separate frogs from being run over last week, if that helps? It's spring, so the frogs that matured in previous years were taking advantage of the rainy evening to migrate back to local ponds to spawn. Unfortunately, none of the frogs seem to know to wait until after humans are done commuting, so I had to scoop them up off the road, and on to the other side in the direction they were going.

Note: I think they were Common Frogs because of their skin, which was characteristically damp. The British common toad has drier skin, and is, in my own limited experience, also slower, making the species far less challenging to catch and rescue from traffic.

In an amusing coincidence, I had to pause this post while I went on an unexpected night-time walk to take another frog in the direction of the nearest body of water, this time because it had been brought into the house by my bewildered cat. Cat is now even more bewildered, because she cannot figure out where the frog is. It's where every creature you bring me goes, girl: back outside!

Frogs have really long legs and are excellent jumpers (the movement not the cold weather apparel) toads have shorter legs and tend to walk.

Well done for looking out for our little froggy friends, as their natural environment decreases they are finding it harder to have breeding grounds. (I have ponds of various sizes and have lots of frogs, spawn and tadpoles. They’re gorgeous things.)

ArabellaScott · 06/04/2024 07:42

Oneofthesurvivors · 06/04/2024 01:37

Isn't this a problem with the calibre of journalists though? Isn't it their job to fact check?

Yes, a bit. Although I don't think BBC verify is going to dedicate a crack team to fluff stories.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 06/04/2024 01:43

Rightsraptor · 05/04/2024 22:36

I liked the 'is it a hat bobble or a hedgehog?' story: it made feel that humans can be kind (in the proper sense) and that maybe there was some hope after all.

Now, if Lycet invented it (I haven't clicked the link) the world is shit again. Rather like Mr L himself.

Well, I rescued two separate frogs from being run over last week, if that helps? It's spring, so the frogs that matured in previous years were taking advantage of the rainy evening to migrate back to local ponds to spawn. Unfortunately, none of the frogs seem to know to wait until after humans are done commuting, so I had to scoop them up off the road, and on to the other side in the direction they were going.

Note: I think they were Common Frogs because of their skin, which was characteristically damp. The British common toad has drier skin, and is, in my own limited experience, also slower, making the species far less challenging to catch and rescue from traffic.

In an amusing coincidence, I had to pause this post while I went on an unexpected night-time walk to take another frog in the direction of the nearest body of water, this time because it had been brought into the house by my bewildered cat. Cat is now even more bewildered, because she cannot figure out where the frog is. It's where every creature you bring me goes, girl: back outside!

Common Frog

https://www.froglife.org/info-advice/amphibians-and-reptiles/common-frog-2/

Oneofthesurvivors · 06/04/2024 01:37

Isn't this a problem with the calibre of journalists though? Isn't it their job to fact check?

StealthSpinach · 06/04/2024 01:04

mumda · 05/04/2024 23:45

Should journalists have some journalism skills?

Possibly!
They obviously don’t have to have morals or ethics…

mumda · 05/04/2024 23:45

Should journalists have some journalism skills?

SpicyMoth · 05/04/2024 23:35

Sounds about right for him tbh.