Woman's hour 2nd April 2024 JKR's 'hate' thread

Making lists of people with a protected charateristics who have committed crimes and inferring collective guilt to the entire group is a time-honoured technique used by people who want to stir up hatred against minority groups. Implying they are a danger to women and children is the icing on the cake. In every case, they imply that this time it's different, this time, the statistics they've cobbled together are correct, and those other people who've done the same thing with other protected groups are wrong.

If JKR was using this approach for black people, or gay people, all of you (I hope) would be up in arms against it. But no, this is your pet hate group, so you support it..

I don't agree with the bill as it stands, but it hasn't instilled in me the need to attack a minority group, or shame the entire group by naming criminals and others within that protected group whose behaviour I don't like.

I have no doubt JKR will not be arrested or charged. The bar for prosecution is pretty high, and she is untouchable.

I'm now imagining a group of us getting together and forming a kick ass close harmony group and blasting out 'MALE!' whenever needed on these threads.

You are simply proving my point. She is saying we shouldn't let "people like this" into our spaces. Does she mean "people like this" or all transgender people? She means the latter, but is implying they are like the former. Some people with protected characteristics are bad people. In the 80s, anti-gay propaganda listed them and suggested children weren't sage around "all the gays" not just the bad ones.

Far right parties in the UK post crimes committed by asylum seekers, then tar all asylum seekers with the same brush. This technique is as old a bigotry itself.

You are simply proving my point. She is saying we shouldn't let "people like this" into our spaces. Does she mean "people like this" or all transgender people? She means the latter, but is implying they are like the former. Some people with protected characteristics are bad people. In the 80s, anti-gay propaganda listed them and suggested children weren't sage around "all the gays" not just the bad ones.

Far right parties in the UK post crimes committed by asylum seekers, then tar all asylum seekers with the same brush. This technique is as old a bigotry itself.

You are simply proving my point. She is saying we shouldn't let "people like this" into our spaces. Does she mean "people like this" or all transgender people? She means the latter, but is implying they are like the former. Some people with protected characteristics are bad people. In the 80s, anti-gay propaganda listed them and suggested children weren't sage around "all the gays" not just the bad ones.

Far right parties in the UK post crimes committed by asylum seekers, then tar all asylum seekers with the same brush. This technique is as old a bigotry itself.

She listed people who are male and access women's single sex spaces.

She did this to show why letting male people access women's single sex spaces is harmful to women.

HTH.

"These people" - do you mean literally, "these people" or all trans women? The answer to this will confirm or deny the validity of my position.

Making lists of people with a protected charateristics who have committed crimes and inferring collective guilt to the entire group is a time-honoured technique used by people who want to stir up hatred against minority groups. Implying they are a danger to women and children is the icing on the cake. In every case, they imply that this time it's different, this time, the statistics they've cobbled together are correct, and those other people who've done the same thing with other protected groups are wrong.

If JKR was using this approach for black people, or gay people, all of you (I hope) would be up in arms against it. But no, this is your pet hate group, so you support it..

I don't agree with the bill as it stands, but it hasn't instilled in me the need to attack a minority group, or shame the entire group by naming criminals and others within that protected group whose behaviour I don't like.

I have no doubt JKR will not be arrested or charged. The bar for prosecution is pretty high, and she is untouchable.

They say they are working on a misogyny hill, so that can’t be it

She didn't just say "trans women are men."

She created a list of trans women who had either committed crimes or indulged in behaviour she didn't like. Of course, she didn't actually come out and say what she was implying about the entire group. That would be too on the nose even for her. She was suggesting that these trans women should not be protected - should be excepted from hate crime legislation - and by inference, that no transgender people should. You can do exactly the same thing with disabled people, gay people and black people.

That's what "It never happens threads" are for and it's why white nationalists publish lists of black criminals. Why do you think white nationalists do this?