Meeting Ed Davey - what to ask?

I'd go with the Staniland Question or the one about his words regarding spaces where a biological male can't go.

As follow up: how many women or children harmed would be unacceptable collateral damage and make you rethink your stance? Give me a ballpark number.

And 'given all the above, as a woman who knows the need for single sex spaces - why the fuck would I vote for you?'

I think, if I had the opportunity re women/penis, I'd word it, 'a woman, obviously, cannot have a penis, why do people keep insisting that they can?'.

Possibly follow up, 'if a man has lost his penis through disease or accident, is he then a woman?' Or perhaps lead with that.

When we met him DS (around 9 at the time) told him he looked like Donald Trump, he took it quite well I thought.
I asked DS why he said it as he actually doesnt look like Donald Trump - its his hair apparently

'What percentage of women have a penis would you say, Sir Ed?'

That way he has a free choice of numbers from 0 to 100, up to him. Are you permitted a follow-up question, OP?

It may not seem respectful (arent we all sick of male members?), but he's been there before and the man is a politician, so he shouldn't be handled with kid gloves.

Please report back. Good luck!

what about 'Hi Ed, did you like the colour of Isla Bryson's lipstick?'

How about, if a female friend or family member required intimate personal care due to illness, would you be happy for that to be provided by someone who was born a male, regardless of how that person identified?

Scratch my idea! In trying to find Fenlandia's quote, I came across several references saying Davey does believe that "quite clearly" women can have a penis. Dated 23.05.23.
It caused quite a kerfuffle with commentators, though. Might be worth repeating if your co-attendees need to be shown how Davey's brain works.

It's a great question but he can neatly side step it with well-worn phrases like "we have no plans at the moment" or "you'll have to wait for our manifesto for detailed policy".

Ask him if a woman can have a penis. That usually flummoxes Starmer.

"Do you stand by your statement that there should be no places where a biological man cannot go, even women's single sex spaces?"

He said this in 2021 but I can't find a clip now as it was on a BBC news programme.

Good luck OP.

What are you doing to stop children being taught that their growing bodies are flawed and can be fixed with a sex change?

Is there a way to make and enforce a rule which allows trans women to enter women's single sex spaces such as toilets, changing rooms and rape crisis groups on a self ID basis, whilst preventing all male people who are a risk to women from entering them? If not, whose needs should be prioritised?

Is there a way to make women's single sex spaces such as toilets, changing rooms and rape crisis groups inclusive of both trans women who self ID as female, and women who need single sex spaces such as Muslims, Orthodox Jews or survivors of male violence who have PTSD? If not, whose needs should be prioritised?

MS is a horrible disease that i would not wish on my worst enemy. With Davey trousering all that cash from in post office (in addition to any other sources of money) I'm genuinely glad they have the cushion of wealth to help her.

Perhaps ask him if women and girls should be able to insist on single sex care, particularly intimate care? Should tw police/prison/customs officers be permitted to carry out intimate searches of women? And vice versa.

How well does he think self id is going in Spain? Perhaps check out the relevant thread first.

I'll stop now.

I'd ask him the Staniland question.

Life isn't easy for him. He has a very difficult life. Both his parents died before he was 15. He has a son with SEND and a wife with MS.
However, that doesn't excuse his behaviour with regard to the Post Office

I think a sub post mistress is standing against him as a candidate in the General Election ( Kingston)

Sub Post masters from his constituency who were convicted tried time after time to meet with him and he refused to see them.

I have let m'colleagues at the gender critical feminist group within the LDs know about this thread. They might come along with some suggestions or be willing to chat to you offline. Google Liberal Voice for Women and there should be some useful stuff on the website.

Ed Davey’s degree was in PPE. So I’d approach it a bit like a university tutorial, I think - it’s gentle, but it can make the point quite well. Talk about rights. Rights can collide. Where trans rights collide with women’s rights, should they trump them? On what basis?

(He will no doubt do the “everyone’s lovely and we can all live happily together” line. Which is when you bring up some real examples of men who have used this to target vulnerable women/commit sex crimes etc.)

Please report back OP. I will be voting LD at the GE just because I know and like our local candidate, and he is not on the same wavelength as his leader on matters of gender.
But I'd like to be able to chat to him about Davey when i next seee him.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/01/ed-davey-apologises-for-his-role-in-post-office-horizon-scandal

Took him a long time to apologise. He also accepted £275,000 as a consultant to the Post Office after he finished as a minister

Why did you refuse to engage with Alan Bates over the Post Office debacle when you were minister for the Post Office?

Do you get a short conversation, or just one question? If the latter, make your short elevator pitch first:

• I'm here to talk about women's rights and spaces
• Women have the right to organise their own spaces, and to exclude men from them. They may also choose to exclude natal males who identify as women. This isn't hateful or transphobic.
• Some official government-funded spaces, such as prisons and hospital wards, usually separate men and women for reasons of privacy, dignity and safety. This should separate natal males who identify as women from the population of women. If in government, would you support women like me who want to maintain official women-only spaces like this?

Does a teenage girl have a right to undress without any males present.

Ask him to back up any statements with facts, vulnerable minority etc.

Please come back and tell us what his answers are.