Meeting Ed Davey - what to ask?

SueBridehead444 · 2024-04-02T06:01:59+00:00

I have an opportunity to meet Ed Davey, leader of the Lib Dems and believer of genderism, today. What do I ask him to put him on the spot, that will be polite but to the point? I'm worried that I will just waffle and not make my point clearly if I don't plan it in advance, so any help would be much appreciated! TIA

lonelywater · 02/04/2024 18:35

MonsterSister · 02/04/2024 17:17

Oh, Oxford is really entrenched in this sort of ideology. My DC finds it very frustrating that it puts up such a huge No Thinking Allowed sign over otherwise interesting tutorials and discussions.

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But it thought the koolaid bollocks was only in about the last ten years or so? When Davey was there I presume it was still on planet earth?

Fenlandia · 02/04/2024 18:33

SueBridehead444 · 02/04/2024 16:38

I did get to meet and have a one-to-one chat with Ed and the lib Dem candidate for our constituency, Sarah Gibson.

I decided to go with @Fenlandia's suggestion (thank you!) and asked him if he still believes that biological men should be allowed into all women's spaces.
He didn't quite deny saying it, but 'might have been misquoted or taken out of context' apparently!
He was quite confrontational and in my face, especially about the Equality Act. He is unapologetically pro-self ID and not interested in women's rights at all.

Sarah was nicer but still all about the 'most vulnerable' but did ask me to contact her so we could discuss it further, which I think I will do.

I did chat with lots of other people, quite a few of whom got my point, although one woman did talk about Brianna Ghey. I just said that it was very sad and awful, but what about the 3 women murdered every week? She didn't have an answer to that.

So no big surprises, and I won't be voting for them. Ed was quite unpleasant to me, but he was expecting to be rallying the troops and not being asked awkward questions!

Well done OP, you're braver than me and at least you now know how useless he is in person as opposed to in the media.

'Misquoted' my arse!

Lanore · 02/04/2024 18:06

“How can you ask women to vote Liberal Democrat, when you and your colleagues have been clear to the electorate that you will not listen to women’s concerns regarding women’s safety and dignity, and you have refused to stand up for women’s rights, and instead you have prioritised the egotistical demands of a tiny minority of men? The Liberal Democrat’s current position on this issue is fanatical. When will this change?”

RhymesWithOrange · 02/04/2024 18:02

Impossible to vote for LDs then.

tobee · 02/04/2024 17:39

How ridiculous that you were told to be gentle when he was anything but.

Cattenberg · 02/04/2024 17:34

SueBridehead444 · 02/04/2024 16:38

I did get to meet and have a one-to-one chat with Ed and the lib Dem candidate for our constituency, Sarah Gibson.

I decided to go with @Fenlandia's suggestion (thank you!) and asked him if he still believes that biological men should be allowed into all women's spaces.
He didn't quite deny saying it, but 'might have been misquoted or taken out of context' apparently!
He was quite confrontational and in my face, especially about the Equality Act. He is unapologetically pro-self ID and not interested in women's rights at all.

Sarah was nicer but still all about the 'most vulnerable' but did ask me to contact her so we could discuss it further, which I think I will do.

I did chat with lots of other people, quite a few of whom got my point, although one woman did talk about Brianna Ghey. I just said that it was very sad and awful, but what about the 3 women murdered every week? She didn't have an answer to that.

So no big surprises, and I won't be voting for them. Ed was quite unpleasant to me, but he was expecting to be rallying the troops and not being asked awkward questions!

Oh FFS! I live in a target seat for the Lib Dems (which they’re expected to take from our awful Tory MP), but I don’t see how I can vote for them. I won’t vote Tory, but I can’t vote for a party which shows actual contempt for women’s rights.

faffadoodledo · 02/04/2024 17:25

@SueBridehead444 thanks for the update. I am going to look out for him coming to our constituency. It's a target one. Tho I rather think our candidate wants to keep him away, knowing he could be a liability!

caringcarer · 02/04/2024 17:18

Why does he insist women can have a penis. Ask him if he knows how ridiculous he sounds. Has he ever seen one of these women with a penis?

MonsterSister · 02/04/2024 17:17

lonelywater · 02/04/2024 16:58

"You used be a student at Jesus College, Oxford. When and how did your brains turn to mush?"

Oh, Oxford is really entrenched in this sort of ideology. My DC finds it very frustrating that it puts up such a huge No Thinking Allowed sign over otherwise interesting tutorials and discussions.

tobee · 02/04/2024 17:11

Bit late from me

tobee · 02/04/2024 17:09

"to protect the rights of everyone in society and treat all transgender people with the respect that they deserve," why is it always Transgender people that you centre Ed?

As for a question, I think I'd want to go for women's sports.

lonelywater · 02/04/2024 16:58

"You used be a student at Jesus College, Oxford. When and how did your brains turn to mush?"

endofthelinefinally · 02/04/2024 16:56

It is disappointing, but not surprising, to hear how unpleasant certain people can be when asked a question they don't like. True colours.

IcakethereforeIam · 02/04/2024 16:44

Thank you for this.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/04/2024 16:41

SueBridehead444 · 02/04/2024 16:38

I did get to meet and have a one-to-one chat with Ed and the lib Dem candidate for our constituency, Sarah Gibson.

I decided to go with @Fenlandia's suggestion (thank you!) and asked him if he still believes that biological men should be allowed into all women's spaces.
He didn't quite deny saying it, but 'might have been misquoted or taken out of context' apparently!
He was quite confrontational and in my face, especially about the Equality Act. He is unapologetically pro-self ID and not interested in women's rights at all.

Sarah was nicer but still all about the 'most vulnerable' but did ask me to contact her so we could discuss it further, which I think I will do.

I did chat with lots of other people, quite a few of whom got my point, although one woman did talk about Brianna Ghey. I just said that it was very sad and awful, but what about the 3 women murdered every week? She didn't have an answer to that.

So no big surprises, and I won't be voting for them. Ed was quite unpleasant to me, but he was expecting to be rallying the troops and not being asked awkward questions!

Thanks for the update OP.

I'd love the opportunity to have a crack at Ed Davey!

I certainly won't be voting Lib Dem this time round, and thanks to boundary changes the Lib Dems actually have a decent chance of winning in my new constituency. It won't be with my help though.

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SueBridehead444 · 02/04/2024 16:38

I did get to meet and have a one-to-one chat with Ed and the lib Dem candidate for our constituency, Sarah Gibson.

I decided to go with @Fenlandia's suggestion (thank you!) and asked him if he still believes that biological men should be allowed into all women's spaces.
He didn't quite deny saying it, but 'might have been misquoted or taken out of context' apparently!
He was quite confrontational and in my face, especially about the Equality Act. He is unapologetically pro-self ID and not interested in women's rights at all.

Sarah was nicer but still all about the 'most vulnerable' but did ask me to contact her so we could discuss it further, which I think I will do.

I did chat with lots of other people, quite a few of whom got my point, although one woman did talk about Brianna Ghey. I just said that it was very sad and awful, but what about the 3 women murdered every week? She didn't have an answer to that.

So no big surprises, and I won't be voting for them. Ed was quite unpleasant to me, but he was expecting to be rallying the troops and not being asked awkward questions!

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ginasevern · 02/04/2024 15:46

Ask him how he felt about the suicide rates, homelessness and bankruptcy he helped to heap on honest, decent sub postmasters. Ask him about the bedroom tax too. Ask him how he felt about jumping into bed with Tory scum on the pretext of adding social balance, because that was was true wasn't it.

That's a few just for starters.

IcakethereforeIam · 02/04/2024 13:27

It was because you're supposed to be gentle that I didn't suggest you grab him firmly by the tie and ask him 'what. are. you. think. ing?' while punctuating each syllable with a blow round the earhole with a rolled up copy of the EA.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/04/2024 13:08

SueBridehead444 · 02/04/2024 12:34

This is what he said in 2019 so I don't think I'll get very far, but I'm going to print it out and bring it with me, so he can't weasel out of having said it.

I'd be tempted to read this out to him and ask him whether he's revised his opinion about trans women not being a danger to "other women" in light of the Isla Bryson scandal.

Uoil · 02/04/2024 13:00

SueBridehead444 · 02/04/2024 12:39

The person I spoke to was a local Lib Dem member.

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Oh ignore that completely. What a ridiculous notion that you have to give fluffy nice questions to politicians.

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SueBridehead444 · 02/04/2024 12:53

I might start off with this, before the Staniland question.

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SueBridehead444 · 02/04/2024 12:53

MarieDeGournay · 02/04/2024 12:43

For what its worth, in your different context:
My approach to politicians here in Ireland is to adopt an almost chummy - 'Ah come on now, you don't really believe that men can turn into women do you?'
which is disconcertingly unconfrontational but uncomfortably direct
Good luck!

I like this!

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MarieDeGournay · 02/04/2024 12:43

For what its worth, in your different context:
My approach to politicians here in Ireland is to adopt an almost chummy - 'Ah come on now, you don't really believe that men can turn into women do you?'
which is disconcertingly unconfrontational but uncomfortably direct
Good luck!

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SueBridehead444 · 02/04/2024 12:39

Uoil · 02/04/2024 11:47

Who asked you to be gentle? His staff?

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The person I spoke to was a local Lib Dem member.

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SueBridehead444 · 02/04/2024 12:37

He also said this - even though all the questions were about women!

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